Not sure what you mean, but if you intended to be derogatory, in my opinion Spydertrader doesn't deserve that.
Like most others here who have a modicum of dangerous knowledge on the subject of JHPV, I'll let it be known, in passing, that the "spyder was a hack" comment is not called for, and imo, baseless. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. That said, I dug up text of a Jack post regarding VE. It confirms the validity of the "extra blue lines". And also offers a possible explanation (I say possible, because volume is not shown) for why the "green channel" may (or may not) be valid.
I think there are 2, what I consider basic "rules", that many/most "forget"... 1) VE only occurs after point 3 2) FTT is not a requirement for completion. Wish you included the volume.
According spydertrader one should look for FTT even after VE. It's easy to see on spyder's charts below. 15:30 Bar 14:50 Bar 10:55 Bar
From my dataset: 1) Correct. On the fastest fractal, a pt3 can be bwt the 2nd and third leg of a bar, the VE being within the 3rd leg. Or more common, the 2nd bar of a two bar combination. Or on the n+1 bar of a n +1 bar combination, n>=1. This is typical of a lateral movement prior to a BO and VE or FBO and FTT of traverse/channel or BO on one fractal and then FTT on faster fractal. 2) Incorrect. FTT's always occur after a pt 3 either before or after a VE. When Pace accelerates then VE. When Pace de-accelerates then FTT. A VE is not necessary for completion but a FTT by it's nature is a completion. Whether an exhaustion of the current dominant or an interruption by a new opposite dominant. Of the three turns, two go to Dominant. C turns - Dom to Dom, 2 and multi bar formations - B2B, R2R, and single bar formations OB (IBGS) B turns - Non Dom to Dom - 2B, 2R, OB (IBGS) Sometimes price lifts on low volume but only on a larger (frequently unseen) short channel. Tiddlywinks, The FTT can occur within a bar perhaps this is what you mean. If you have an example at hand, it would be interesting to see the difference.
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