Fort Hood shooting smells like a hidden agenda

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by TorontoTrader2, Nov 7, 2009.

  1. Isn't it strange..this is another one of those cases that is "solved" pretty much within 24hrs in the media. Much like Sept 11th was.


    In less than 24hrs after the "surprise" attack we are shown crystal clear 7/11 video tape of the guy, oh and the best part is he is dressed like a "raghead"! Man, you could not write a better script. We are told the authorities know all about him on the internet. We know every single detail about him. They even throw in the Koran. Yes folks, we have yet another stereotypical muslim bogeyman!
    All beamed instantly around the world in les than 24 hrs.

    Yet he was promoted to major and was set to be deployed?

    Does this make any sense? Or is this an event designed to push into a WW3 race war and to justify the billions spent on occupation every week, while American citizens live on food stamps? This even will help to justify barbaric and inhumane torture too. I just felt humanity take one giant step backwards into the dark ages.

    Let's drop WMD onto civillians in the middle east! Oh wait, we do that daily via "democracy drones" that rain death down from above.



    You tell me who gains from this.

    The elite rich have already sacrified tens of thousands of american soldiers' lives in a middle east suicide mission. Don't kid yourself, the death cult will do anything.
     
  2. Actually it is around 5000, perhaps you should do a little research before shooting your mouth off.
     
  3. If we take a step back into the dark ages we will still be light years ahead of the muslim world.

    Stop your bitching, one of your peace loving people's did it. Take responsibility.





     
  4. So many unsolved serious crimes...but the Feds appear out of nowhere and within hours we know everything!

    Kind of like how FEMA was posted in NY on Sept 10th, 2001.god love those fed, always a day late and a dollar short when it comes to terror attacks; but boy can they work fast to solve them withing 24-48 hours

    They can connect one man to worldwide terror groups like no-one else can! Just mention the word: Mosque, and we'll be wetting our pants in fear and signing 5 billion dollr defence contracts tomorrow.

    Is there anything muslims cannot do? Give them a few boxcutters and some failed flying lessons and presto they can skillfully pilot transport jets within 6" of the ground to score a direct hit on the pentagon and several buildings. Man, what good pilots.
    And to hijack 4 jets in protected airspace and no-one noticed! What a feat, these muslims.

    Singlehandedly they can defeat the entire Western military industrial complex, how about that. And we must keep making war, war being the most profitable human endeavor ever.
     
  5. Toronto, could you please offer your guidance on how the following attacks fit into you theory of a worldwide conspiracy against muslims?


    Keep in mind I could only post about two weeks worth of terrorist attacks. The posting wouldn't accept anymore.


    Date Country City Killed Injured Description
    2009.11.06 Somalia Merca 1 0 A 33-year-old man is brutally stoned to death for adultery. The execution takes about seven minutes.
    2009.11.05 USA Ft. Hood, TX 13 31 A Muslim psychiatrist yelling 'Allah Akbar' murders thirteen unarmed U.S. soldiers on their base in Texas.
    2009.11.05 Philippines Zamboanga 2 8 Two people are killed when suspected Islamists fire into a commuter bus.
    2009.11.04 Pakistan Bajaur 2 2 Two female schoolteachers are brutally shot to death by Taliban extremists.
    2009.11.03 Yemen Hadramut 8 0 al-Qadea militants open fire on a vehicle, machine-gunning eight people to death.
    2009.11.03 Afghanistan Helmand 5 8 A Taliban gunmen disguised as a policeman suddenly opens fire at a police base, killing five British soldiers in cold blood.
    2009.11.03 Saudi Arabia Jazan 1 0 Islamic rebels gun down a security officer "with the support and assistance of Allah."
    2009.11.03 Iraq Abu Ghraib 3 0 Mujahid bombers wipe out a family of three, including a girl.
    2009.11.02 Pakistan Rawalpindi 36 63 Fundamentalists set off a massive bomb near a line of people outside a bank, putting down at least thirty-five.
    2009.11.02 Pakistan Lahore 0 25 Twenty-five people are injured when a suicide bomber detonates along a city street.
    2009.11.02 Thailand Yala 2 0 Two men riding in a pickup truck are shot to death by a terrorist disguised in a burka.
    2009.11.02 Thailand Yala 2 0 Two men are killed in a Religion of Peace drive-by.
    2009.11.02 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 Islamists break into a house and murder a villager.
    2009.11.02 USA Glendale, AZ 1 1 A woman dies from injuries suffered when her father runs her down with a car for being too 'Westernized.'
    2009.11.02 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Two security personnel are gunned down by Muslim rebels in separate attacks.
    2009.11.02 Iraq Khanaqin 2 0 A man and his son are gunned down by Muslim terrorists.
    2009.11.01 Philippines Banisilan 1 2 Moro Islamists ambush a car carrying civilians, shooting at least one to death.
    2009.11.01 Iraq Mussayab 9 38 Jihadis rig a bicycle with explosives, then set it off in a market, killing at least nine innocents.
    2009.11.01 Iraq Ramadi 3 5 A Fedayeen suicide bomber takes down three Iraqis.
    2009.11.01 Somalia Lascanood 5 4 Suspected Shabaab radicals blow up a car with five people inside.
    2009.11.01 India Srinagar 2 0 Islamists murder two traffic cops in a hit-and-run surprise attack at an intersection.
    2009.11.01 Iraq Karbala 3 15 Terrorists plant a bomb on a bus that leaves three people dead.
    2009.11.01 Dagestan Bavtugai 1 0 A local mosque official is assassinated by extremists.
    2009.10.31 Philippines Sulu 1 4 Moro Islamists open fire on a passing patrol, killing at least one.
    2009.10.31 Pakistan Bara 7 12 Lashkar-e-Islam members use a roadside bomber to murder seven security personnel.
    2009.10.31 Pakistan Khyber 2 7 Sunni hardliners blow up a girls' school and mortar a residential neighborhood, killing two civilians.
    2009.10.31 Thailand Yala 1 0 Islamists kidnap a local man, handcuff him, then shoot him in the head.
    2009.10.30 Pakistan Pir Sarhandi Goth 1 0 An older homosexual man is pulled from his home and beaten to death by a Muslim mob.
    2009.10.30 Iraq Baghdad 1 3 Mujahideen bombers murder a government official.
    2009.10.30 Iraq Tikrit 1 0 A young man has his throat slashed by Sunni militants.
    2009.10.30 Afghanistan Nangarhar 9 0 All nine civilians riding in a taxi are slaughtered by Taliban bombers.
    2009.10.30 Thailand Yala 1 1 A Buddhist woman is brutally shot to death, and her husband is seriously injured, by Muslim radicals.
    2009.10.29 Afghanistan Kandahar 4 0 A child is among four Afghan civilians torn to pieces by an Islamist bomb.
    2009.10.29 Iraq Baquba 1 2 A civilian is taken out by a Fedayeen suicide bomber outside a hospital.
    2009.10.29 Iraq Mosul 3 1 Sunni gunmen murder three Iraqi policemen at point-blank range.
    2009.10.28 Afghanistan Kabul 9 9 Mujahideen force their way into a UN guesthouse, where they murder nine people, including six international workers.
    2009.10.28 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Two civilians are gunned down in separate Muslim drive-bys.
    2009.10.28 Pakistan Peshawar 117 200 Over one-hundred people - mostly women and children - are blown to bits by a massive car bomb blast at a busy market.
    2009.10.28 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Muslim radicals shoot a Buddhist motorcycle shop owner to death, then set fire to his body.
    2009.10.28 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 78-year-old Buddhist man is shot off his motorbike by Muslim terrorists.
    2009.10.28 Iraq Baghdad 3 4 Three women sitting on a minibus are blown to bits by Islamic bombers.
    2009.10.28 Iraq Mosul 3 5 Mujahideen kill three civilians with a roadside bomb.
    2009.10.27 Iraq Tikrit 2 0 Jihadis blow up an oil tanker, killing the two drivers.
    2009.10.27 Pakistan Mohmand 2 3 Religious extremists attack a police post, killing two officers.
    2009.10.27 Pakistan Bajaur 1 0 Taliban radicals shoot a man to death while he is sitting in his shop.
    2009.10.27 Iraq Baiji 1 0 Terrorists attack a bomb to a car which kills an 11-year-old boy trying to remove it.
    2009.10.26 Iraq Karbalah 4 12 A suicide bomber sends four souls to Allah.
    2009.10.26 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Dedicated Muslims gun down two Buddhist civilians looking for food.
    2009.10.26 Iraq Mosul 2 2 Mujahideen gunmen murder two civilians.
    2009.10.25 Somalia Merca 2 0 Two men are shot to death by al-Shabaab militants
    2009.10.25 Yemen Dalea 2 3 Two local soldiers are gunned down in a suspected sectarian ambush.
    2009.10.25 Iraq Baghdad 160 540 Two massive car bombs take out one-hundred and sixty Iraqis standing near or in government buildings. The dead include 30 children at a day care center. The Islamic State of Iraq takes responsibility.
    2009.10.24 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A Buddhist working as a janitor is shot to death by Muslim militants at a tea shop.
    2009.10.24 Iraq Tikrit 2 7 A suicide bomber takes out seven at a political headquarters.
    2009.10.24 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Islamists gun down a farmer in his field.
    2009.10.24 Pakistan Punjab 1 0 A police officer is killed by a Fedayeen bomber.
    2009.10.23 Iraq Abu Ghraib 2 3 Islamic radicals bomb a family in their vehicle, killing two members.
    2009.10.23 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 23-year-old man is murdered by Islamic terrorists.
    2009.10.23 Pakistan Peshawar 0 15 Islamists car bomb a restaurant, injuring fifteen people.
    2009.10.23 Thailand Yala 2 1 Two men are murdered by Mujahideen gunmen, one in his home.
    2009.10.23 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 29-year-old villager is shot in the head by Muslim militants.
    2009.10.23 Pakistan Kamra 8 17 A Fedayeen pedals to paradise, taking eight others with him in the suicide blast outside an aeronautical complex.
     
  6. We have the smoking gun!

    Simply amazing, the story changed from the get-go. Multiple shooters were reported (incidently tons of eyewitneses said the same thing at Columbine)

    But no, we have our "lone gun-man".

    This is like a movie script, a neo-con zionist wet dream to make war!!

    We are told now,a lone brooding muslim who handed out Korans?
    Who was spotted in 7/11 dressed like a "r_ghead". Jsut amazing how 12 hours later they had the footage. Could you tell me where I was 12 hours ago? In what store?

    And then internet postings.

    And wait, now we have Al Q links, and even a Mosque thrown in! Wait, the piece de resistance..Sept 11th links!!

    Oh my, all we are missing is a passport found at the scene and a Boeing flight manual in the glove box (after a night drinking in the strip clubs, as any faithful devout muslim would do?).
    Hey, maybe the CIA will "find" a Bin Laden VHS tape lying around in the desert, somewhere, praising this guy.

    Man, do they think we are stupid?


    I say fuck the zionist press and the zionist warmongers.

    <B>Fort Hood shooting: Texas army killer linked to September 11 terrorists

    Major Nidal Malik Hasan worshipped at a mosque led by a radical imam said to be a "spiritual adviser" to three of the hijackers who attacked America on Sept 11, 2001.

    By Philip Sherwell and Alex Spillius
    Published: 8:17PM GMT 07 Nov 2009

    Hasan, the sole suspect in the massacre of 13 fellow US soldiers in Texas, attended the controversial Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Virginia, in 2001 at the same time as two of the September 11 terrorists, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt. His mother's funeral was held there in May that year.

    The preacher at the time was Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born Yemeni scholar who was banned from addressing a meeting in London by video link in August because he is accused of supporting attacks on British troops and backing terrorist organisations.


    Hasan's eyes "lit up" when he mentioned his deep respect for al-Awlaki's teachings, according to a fellow Muslim officer at the Fort Hood base in Texas, the scene of Thursday's horrific shooting spree.

    As investigators look at Hasan's motives and mindset, his attendance at the mosque could be an important piece of the jigsaw. Al-Awlaki moved to Dar al-Hijrah as imam in January, 2001, from the west coast, and three months later the September 11 hijackers Nawaf al-Hamzi and Hani Hanjour began attending his services. A third hijacker attended his services in California.

    Hasan was praying at Dar al-Hijrah at about the same time, and the FBI will now want to investigate whether he met the two terrorists.

    Charles Allen, a former under-secretary for intelligence at the Department of Homeland Security, has described al-Awlaki, who now lives in Yemen, as an "al-Qaeda supporter, and former spiritual leader to three of the September 11 hijackers... who targets US Muslims with radical online lectures encouraging terrorist attacks from his new home in Yemen".

    Last night Hasan remained in a coma under guard at a military hospital in San Antonio, Texas, and was said to be in a "stable" condition. Born in America to a Palestinian family, Hasan, 39, was an army psychiatrist who had chosen to sign up for the US military against his parents' wishes.

    But he turned into an angry critic of the wars America was waging in Iraq and Afghanistan and had tried in vain to negotiate his discharge.

    He counselled soldiers returning from the front line and told relatives that he was horrified at the prospect of a deployment to Afghanistan later this year – his first time in a combat zone.

    Whether due to his personal convictions, his stress over his deployment or other reasons, Hasan is alleged to have snapped and gone on a murderous rampage with a powerful semi-automatic handgun after shouting "Allahu Akhbar" ("God is great"), according to survivors. He had earlier given away copies of the Koran to neighbours.

    Investigators at this stage have no indication that he planned the attacks with anyone else. But they are trawling through his phone records, paperwork and computers he used before the attack during an apparently sleepless night.

    Five of the 13 victims were fellow mental health professionals from three units of the army's Combat Stress Control Detachment, it was disclosed yesterday.

    It is understood that Hasan had been due to be deployed with members of those units in coming months. Whether he deliberately singled out other combat stress counsellors is another key question.

    What does seem clear is that the army missed an increasing number of red flags that Hasan was a troubled and brooding individual within its ranks.

    "I was shocked but not surprised by news of Thursday's attack," said Dr Val Finnell, a fellow student on a public health course in 2007-08 who heard Hasan equate the war on terrorism to a war on Islam. Another student had warned military officials that Hasan was a "ticking time bomb" after he reportedly gave a presentation defending suicide bombers.

    Kamran Pasha, the author of Mother of the Believers, a new novel relating the story of Islam from the perspective of Aisha, Prophet Mohammed's wife, was told of the al-Awlaki connection from a Muslim friend who is also an officer at Fort Hood. Using the name Richard, the recent convert to Islam described how he frequently prayed with Hasan at the town mosque after Hasan was deployed to Fort Hood in July. They last worshipped together at predawn prayers on the day of the massacre when Hasan "appeared relaxed and not in any way troubled or nervous".

    But Richard had previously argued with Hasan when he said that he felt the "war on terror" was really a war against Islam, expressed anti-Jewish sentiments and defended suicide bombings.

    "I asked Richard whether he believed that Hasan was motivated by religious radicalism in his murderous actions," Mr Pasha said.

    "Richard, with great sadness, said that he believed this was true. He also believed that psychological factors from Hasan's job as an army psychiatrist added to his pathos. The news that he would be deployed overseas, to a war that he rejected, may have pushed him over the edge.

    "But Richard does not excuse Hasan. As a Muslim, he finds Hasan's religious perspectives to be fundamentally misguided. And as a soldier, he finds Hasan's actions cowardly and evil."

    Fellow Muslims in the US armed forces have also been quick to denounce Hasan's actions and insist that they were the product of a lone individual rather than of Islamic teachings. Osman Danquah, the co-founder of the Islamic Community of Greater Killeen, said Hasan never expressed anger toward the army or indicated any plans for violence.

    But he said that, at their second meeting, Hasan seemed almost incoherent.

    "I told him, 'There's something wrong with you'. I didn't get the feeling he was talking for himself, but something just didn't seem right."

    He was sufficiently troubled that he recommended the centre reject Hasan's request to become a lay Muslim leader at Fort Hood.

    Hasan had, in fact, already come to the attention of the authorities before Thursday's massacre. He was suspected of being the author of internet postings that compared suicide bombers with soldiers who throw themselves on grenades to save others and had also reportedly been warned about proselytising to patients.

    At Fort Hood, he told a colleague, Col Terry Lee, that he believed Muslims should rise up against American "aggressors". He made no attempt to hide his desire to end his military service early or his mortification at the prospect of deployment to Afghanistan. "He had people telling him on a daily basis the horrors they saw over there," said his cousin, Nader Hasan.

    Yet away from his strident attacks on US foreign policy, he came across as subdued and reclusive – not hostile or threatening. Soldiers he counselled at the Walter Reed hospital in Washington praised him, while at Fort Hood, Kimberly Kesling, the deputy commander of clinical services, remarked: "Up to this point, I would consider him an asset."

    Relatives said that the death of Hasan's parents, in 1998 and 2001, turned him more devout. "After he lost his parents he tried to replace their love by reading a lot of books, including the Koran," his uncle Rafiq Hamad said.

    "He didn't have a girlfriend, he didn't dance, he didn't go to bars."

    His failed search for a wife seemed to haunt Hasan. At the Muslim Community Centre in the Washington suburb of Silver Spring, he signed up for an Islamic matchmaking service, specifying that he wanted a bride who wore the hijab and prayed five times a day.

    Adnan Haider, a retired professor of statistics, recalled how at their first meeting last year, a casual introduction after Friday prayers, Hasan immediately asked the academic if he knew "a nice Muslim girl" he could marry.

    "It was a strange thing to ask someone you have met two seconds before. It was clear to me he was under pressure, you could just see it in his face," said Prof Haider, 74, who used to work at Georgetown University in Washington. "You could see he was lonely and didn't have friends.

    "He is working with psychiatric people and I ask why the people around him didn't spot that something was wrong? When I heard what had happened I actually wasn't that surprised."

    Indeed, many of the characteristics attributed to Hasan by acquaintances – withdrawn, unassuming, brooding, socially awkward and never known to have had a girlfriend – have also applied to other mass murderers.

    Hasan was born and brought up in Virginia to parents who ran restaurants after emigrating to America from the West Bank. He graduated from Virginia Tech university – coincidentally, the scene of the worst mass shooting in US history in 2007 – with a degree in biochemistry and then joined the army, which trained him as a psychiatrist.
     
  7. From what I understand owners of websites that utilize a message board at times would make up online personalities, some times many. There is no doubt that you are one of these made up screennames.

    Hi Baron.
     
  8. Practicing your al-Taqiyya again TorontoTrader?

    Muslims are permitted to LIE or dissimulate when they feel under threat in an infidel country such as America or Canada when one of their co-believers guns down 13 soldiers and wounds 30 in the US.

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  9. Army guy confirms mulitple shooters on this short news clip:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDI8vmO8uPM&feature=player_embedded

    We'll never hear about it again! They have their "long gunman" pasty and hey, he's in a coma!

    Dead men tell no tales. Or almost dead men.

    Maybe a guy like Jack Rubenstein (aka Jack Ruby) will appear out of no-where to silence him, and them himself die 1 year later.

    I trust you believe all of this?
     
    #10     Nov 8, 2009