Formula to calculate cost of closing a call?

Discussion in 'Options' started by wxytrader, Aug 29, 2024.

  1. So in other words, nobody can explain this discrepancy lol...ok

    If I bought shares @ 16.90 and sold @16.99 I pnl $135.
    If I sell a call when price is 16.90, and then close the call and sell my shares I get ($300 + $135)
    If I let the shares get taken away I only pnl $300.
     
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2024
    #11     Aug 30, 2024
  2. AKJ

    AKJ

    There is no discrepancy. You are just bad at basic math. And it would not be difficult to explain this to someone with a basic foundational level of options comprehension, but given your post history, it seems likely it would take a half dozen replies and a 1.5 days to explain something to you that you ultimately won't comprehend. So why bother.
     
    #12     Aug 30, 2024
  3. So in other words you can't explain it...I think we need P for this one. :)
     
    #13     Aug 30, 2024
  4. AKJ

    AKJ

    In addition to math, reading comprehension is also below grade level.
     
    #14     Aug 30, 2024
  5. and yet I'm the one driving a (2008) Lambo. :)
     
    #15     Aug 30, 2024
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  6. AKJ

    AKJ

    Ok numbskull.

    You bought MARA for $16.90
    You sold MARA 8/30/24 16.5C for $0.69

    If MARA is above $16.5 at expiration and you allow your position to be called away, your PnL is:

    [$16.50 + $0.69 - $16.90] * 1500 = $435.

    Tada! If your shares are called away, your PnL is actually $435, not $300.

    If you close your call early, then sell your shares in the market, your PnL may end up being something different, because you probably have to pay some time value to close out your short call.

    Did I just discover an arbitrage????:D:);):confused::cool::p:wtf::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:
     
    #16     Aug 30, 2024
  7. No,
    Premium received selling the short call: $1035
    Cost to close the short call: $735
    Net: $300

    Plus the increase in stock price from 16.90-16.99=.09*1500=$135
    Total: $435

    So you pnl $435 only if you close the position and keep the shares, not if you let it expire itm.
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    If you let the position expire itm and get called away:

    Market value: $25,485
    Contract value: $24,750

    Total: -$735 + $1035 = $300.

    So it is better to close out the position and keep the shares than let them get called away.
     
    #17     Aug 30, 2024
  8. AKJ

    AKJ

    Like I said before, you are demonstrating a complete absence of basic math and options concepts.

    The price of the stock on expiration date (your $25485) is irrelevant in determining your PnL in event the shares are called away. All that is relevant are (1) the price you paid for the stock, (2) the premium collected on the call, (3) the strike price on the call.

    You bought the stock for $16.90 and received $0.69 in premium, so your net price on the buy-write is $16.21. If your shares are called away, you receive $16.50 in return for your shares. The difference is $0.29. Multiply by 1,500 and you get $435 profit.

    But I fully expect that you are incapable of understanding even that basic math. And because of that, this will be my last response.
     
    #18     Aug 30, 2024

  9. Yes if you close @ expiry or let your shares get called away...but I am talking about closing prior to expiry.
     
    #19     Aug 30, 2024
  10. AKJ

    AKJ

     
    #20     Aug 30, 2024