Former US State Governor Questions 9/11 Official Story

Discussion in 'Politics' started by 5Pillars, Apr 3, 2008.

  1. Yet ANOTHER example of the paranoid delusional thinking that represents the vast majority of twoofers.

    Dummy thinks that there is a conspriacy to supress him. Textbook delusions of persecution. It never occurs to twoofers that some people are able to critically think for themselves and see the folly of the whole twoofer movement and feel the need to point out the stupendous ridiculousness of the twoof movement.

    Poor wittle twoofer, everyone's out to get you.......
     
    #221     Apr 9, 2008
  2. like i said.. i used to tease you about being in a boiler room... but i do know they hire really stupid people. so sue me... it all fit!!! lmao :D
     
    #222     Apr 9, 2008
  3. Yes it fits perfectly.

    You ARE paranoid, with delusions of persecution because you believe your arguments have merit.

    They don't.
     
    #223     Apr 9, 2008
  4. 1000

    1000

    Yes I know it's a GAS law, but, the point is that Pressure is proportional to Temperature, and Volume is proportional to Temperature.

    1. The Volume of metal increases with increasing Temperature, and in a Controlled environment, an increase in temperature causes an increase in pressure, that is why we have expansion of metals with increased temperature, or the bending of beams, because their movement is restricted. That results in an increase in Tension.

    2. "Creep of metals" doesn't need every metal beam to fail. The jets hit at a point where the metal framework structure became weakened enough to cause the weight of the floors above to collapse downwards.

    3. There was a sufficiently high temperature generated for a significant length of time with the applied stress, enough to be greater than 0.33Tm (i.e. 329 degrees centigrade) required for tertiary phase "Creep" and catastrophic failure.

    4. Every material undergoes creep which is change in strain over time

    THAT IS A FACT. It is science. You cannot dispute that .

    5. What your suggesting is that for the "secondary creep" where

    de/dt = K exp (-B/T), i.e. the slope of the stain time graph is too slow for this to happen between the time that the jets hit and the buildings imploded

    and de/dt = Cs^n

    where B, C, K and ne are particular for a metal


    HOWEVER

    Temperature in a closed environment can be 1000-2000 degrees centigrade i.e. a lot greater than 0.33Tm, and for an increased de/dt, the stresses would have also increased.

    so what

    1. The buildings imploded, and it happed because the structure failed.

    2. The structure failed becasue the tertiary creep occured and this is associated with final catastrophic failure

    3. The weight of the concrete and steel added to the stress that caused the cascading effect thus causing the implosion

    this is a scientific explanation judging from what actually happened and the prevailing conditions

    it is also natural for the human being to be sceptical and doubt the truth, because otherwise we wouldn't be human

    and that explains why we are fallen, because all we want to do is poke holes into each other.
     
    #224     Apr 9, 2008
  5. i'm sorry, we all know you are a professional iron worker!

    LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    [​IMG]
     
    #225     Apr 9, 2008
  6. Actually, the events at WTC prior to 9/11 point in the opposite direction.

    Security company changes, strange long lasting fire drills, elimination of bomb sniffing dogs, etc.

    The Popular Mechanics arguments are selective and easily debatable. The editor is related to the Bush family & administration. Also, most of their explanations are very unique & elaborate. Basically, in their eyes, the cards just happened to line up perfectly by coincidence, hence the official story.

    Honestly, if you believe their story, go start a new demolition company and just burn building downs for a fraction of the cost. What's the point of a planned demolition when you can just burn the building down and it will fall down in a perfect symmetrical manner.
     
    #226     Apr 9, 2008
  7. 1000

    1000

    1. The logistics required for this were not present prior to 9/11. (that has been proven, and you don't need to be a demo contractor to figure that one out).

    2. for a demo implosion to be successful, the lower floors have to be rigged, and there was no evidence of this in the basement or the lower floors which remained in tacked after the implosion.

    3. for a demo job to be successful the whole structure has to be rigged and blown up in one go.

    none of the above happened so it cannot be a demo job
     
    #227     Apr 9, 2008
  8. Actually, you're wrong. The creators of "Loose Change" argued this with Popular Mechanics and the Popular Mechanics guys would just avoid the issue.
     
    #228     Apr 9, 2008
  9. TGregg

    TGregg

    #229     Apr 9, 2008
  10. http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1307467&highlight=iron#post1307467



    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...=82088&perpage=6&highlight=iron&pagenumber=91

     
    #230     Apr 9, 2008