this is unbelievable.... how can anyone with half a brain bring up this argument? TM... you aren't that stupid.. come on now. the same way the BBC reports a bldg has collapsed 23 MINUTES BEFORE IT HAPPENS!!!!
You are a complete idiot. Mayor Giuiani had his "Command and Control" center in #7 WTC, about halfway up. As a result, for emergency purposes they had reserve tanks of heating oil down in the lobby of the building near the elevator bank. The heating oil had been burning all day long inside of the building and that is what lead to the degredation in structural integrity. It didn't help matters that WTC #7 was situated above a Con-Ed power substation which imposed "unique structural design constraints."
Bill clinton as Prez. of the Us, the most powerful man in the world.....could't keep a blow job a secret.....yet you think that something this big could be kept a secret by this many people???? ok...i buy it.
Rat: so you supposedly worked on demolitions I didn't physically "work on demolitions". I was the Project Manager for the entire gig -- demo and rebuild. The Loizeaux's were just one of many subcontractors on the project. Because of obvious safety issues and my position, I was very involved in reviewing their plans and execution, but I did none of the actual work. I know enough to know that water bags were not involved and frankly watching the Loizeaux's work on Discover Channel (etc) repeatedly, I've never seen them used ever. From that position I surmise that their use is at least very rare. >... and you say wtc7 was not a controlled demo? Yes I do. JB
so the free fall speed and symmetry of the collapse is just arbitrary? do you believe that the BBC is clairvoyant? amazing how the predicted the collapse 23 minutes beforehand. so ummm... turok? why did it fall? metal creep? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Rat: >so the free fall speed and symmetry >of the collapse is just arbitrary? What I say is what the video says ... there was no free fall (well, unless you let the mass of the building get up to speed before you start timing it -- which is what you continue to insist on doing). Jb
the interior explosions come before the others.... thus the penthouse starts falling first. 95% of the bldg starts falling a few seconds after that... therefore... if you start the count... when the top four corners begin to fall we are talking appx 6 sec's. ??? what is so hard about this... i am amazed at anyone that doesnt get this dynamic. i mean seriously.. if you really work in this business you do understand that you want the bldg to fall in on itself??? right?
what don;t youget? a very LARGE plane travelling at 400 MPH filled to the brim with jet fuel hits a tower...... the tower stayed up for an hour or so...but the more important question is: if there was this demo scheme in place......why not spend the extra five dollars and have a timer on the explosives so it would go off either a) when the planes hit or b) one to five minutes later???????
im still waiting for one insider ( even an annonymous blogger) to come forward and say " yeah , we blew it up and heres what we did"...
omg.. why do i bother here. TM??? please show me anything or anyone that says or shows a jet hitting wtc7. seriously, why do i bother? this is a waste of time.