For you "Obama was born in Kenya" losers

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by monty21, Jul 28, 2009.


    (HONOLULU) — State officials in Hawaii on Monday said they have once again checked and confirmed that President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen, and therefore meets a key constitutional requirement for being president.

    Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said she hoped to end lingering rumors about Obama's birthplace. (Read "Certified American.")

    "I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen," she said in a brief statement. "I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago."

    So-called "birthers" — who claim Obama is ineligible to be president because, they argue, he was actually born outside the United States — have grown more vocal recently on blogs and television news shows.

    Fukino issued a similar press release Oct. 31, but was prompted to speak out again because of the renewed attention on Obama's beginnings. Hawaii's Health Department has been flooded in recent weeks with questions from individuals and several national TV news networks asking for proof that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii.

    "They just keep asking over and over and over again," Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said.

    The Constitution states that a person must be a "natural-born citizen" to be eligible for the presidency. Birthers contend that Obama's birth certificate is a fake, and many say he was actually born in Kenya, his father's homeland. They've challenged his citizenship in court.

    One widely circulated YouTube clip of a town hall meeting showed a Republican congressman getting booed for saying Obama is a citizen. Talk show host Rush Limbaugh and CNN's Lou Dobbs have also raised the issue, and 10 Republican members of Congress co-sponsored a bill that would require future presidential candidates to provide a copy of their original birth certificate.

    However, it appears Congress has moved on and has accepted Obama's island birthplace. The U.S. House on Monday unanimously approved a resolution recognizing and celebrating the 50th anniversary of Hawaii becoming the 50th state. A clause was included that reads: "Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961."

    State law bars the release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.

    However, Obama's birth certificate along with birth notices from the two Honolulu newspapers were brought forward even before he took office. But that's done nothing to shake the belief by many Obama critics that the president was born abroad.
  2. I'm not a birther or whatever they are called but why doesn't he just release them?

    State law bars the release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.

    Doesn't ever american citizen have a tangible interest in knowing if their leader was really a citizen?
  3. fhl


    So why doesn't he let people see the records?

    How does the Hawaii dept of health representative know he's a natural born citizen, when it hasn't been defined in the constitution what a natural born citizen is and the left's argument as to what it is has been blown to smithereens just yesterday with the finding of a supreme court case that specifically said it had not been defined in the constitution. (the left said that the 14'th amendment defined it, but, alas, is doesn't.) minor v happersett

    Where are they going to hang the plaque signifying that Obama was born in Hawaii. Normally, it would be hung at his place of birth. So, where EXACTLY should it be hung. ( not some vague answer like 'hawaii')

    Keep dreaming that it's over.

    edit: In addition, the gesture yesterday by Hawaii was not one of strength, but rather one that shows they are <u>running scared</u>. Why do I say that? Glad you asked.

    I say it because it was only hours after the minor v happersett case was found to blow apart the lefts case on natural born citizenship that the hawaii people made their effort to stem the tide.

    They needed to because they could no longer rely on a foreign birth to be bailed out by the fourteenth amendment, and the changing of the law regarding how old his mother was when she gave birth and how long she resided in the country after that, etc.

    You see, with the new information found with minor v happersett, if Obama was born out of the country, <i>he is automatically disquallified from the presidency</i>. But, it is an open question that has not been decided by the supreme court as to his natural born status if he was born in the country. That's why they needed to pull out all the stops and try to convince everyone he was born in the country. And they did it just <i>hours</i> after the new information was found, suggesting that they are <i>scared</i>.
  4. He has released them

    When a request is made for a copy of a birth certificate, the DOH issues a Certification of Live Birth.

    Although original birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth) are preferred for their greater detail, the State Department of Health (DOH) no longer issues Certificates of Live Birth.

    The Department of Hawaiian Home Lands accepts both Certificates of Live Birth (original birth certificate) and Certifications of Live Birth because they are official government records documenting an individual’s birth.



  5. Trusting the government not to lie to us now, are we?

  6. If its not over please tell us whats going to happen.I would really like to know what is going through your heads and what you guys are hoping for :)
  7. Obama > Bush

    It's funny how some guys dispose Obama because of some citizenship claim (which has proven to be bullsh!t). How about you cowards get your acts together and complain about a president who: invaded a country that had never attacked us, nor had anything to do with 9/11 or possessed any weapons of mass destruction.

  8. Bush Resume:

    # Attacked and took over two countries.
    # Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury.
    # Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.
    # Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.
    # Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
    # First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
    # First president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.
    # First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in U.S. history.
    # After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.
    # Set the record for most campaign fundraising trips than any other president in U.S. history.
    # In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.
    # Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in U.S. history.
    # Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
    # Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in U.S. history.
    # Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.
    # Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any president in U.S. history.
    # Presided over the biggest energy crises in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.
    # Presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
    # Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.
    # Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.
    # Dissolved more international treaties than any president in U.S. history.
    # My presidency is the most secretive and unaccountable of any in U.S. history.
    # Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history (the 'poorest' multimillionaire, Condoleezza Rice, has an Exxon oil tanker named after her).
    # First president in U.S. history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt.
    # Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world.
    # First president in U.S. history to order a U.S. attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation.
    # Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.
    # Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in U.S. history.
    # First president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the human rights commission.
    # First president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the elections monitoring board.
    # Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in U.S. history.
    # Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.
    # Withdrew from the World Court of Law.
    # Refused to allow inspectors access to U.S. prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
    # First president in U.S. history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. elections).
    # All-time U.S. (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.
    # My biggest lifetime campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).
    # Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in U.S. history.
    # First president in U.S. history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
    # First president to run and hide when the U.S. came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)
    # First U.S. president to establish a secret shadow government.
    # Took the biggest world sympathy for the U.S. after 9/11, and in less than a year made the U.S. the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in U.S. and world history).
    # With a policy of 'disengagement' created the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.
    # Fist U.S. president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.
    # First U.S. president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the U.S. than their immediate neighbor, North Korea.
    # Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
    # Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated U.S. law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.
    # Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive.'
    # Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capital building. After 18 months I have no leads and zero suspects.
    # In the 18 months following the 9/11 attacks I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States.
    # Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in U.S. history.
    # In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the U.S. has ever been since the Civil War.
    # Entered office with the strongest economy in U.S. history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.
  9. aegis


    Can't I dislike both?
  10. I never thought I'd say this, but man, Bush was actually worse than I thought. Wild.
    #10     Jul 28, 2009