For those that think FB is a good buy

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by peilthetraveler, Aug 7, 2012.

  1. You've made the case for a sentiment-extreme. IMO, FB does not touch 18 in 2012. No, I don't own a single share or delta, natural or synthetic.

    I am not stating it's going to thirty in a month, but let's see all your runs with the massif short positions. My guess is that none of you are short a single share of FB.

    And FWIW, I spend about 5 minutes a week on FB.
     
    #11     Aug 7, 2012
  2. buzzie77

    buzzie77

    FB is a Good BYE.. wouldn't touch this a penny above 8.50 a share.
     
    #12     Aug 7, 2012
  3. achilles28

    achilles28

    I think FBs' largest source of revenue will end up being data-mined personal info sold to Government and private marketers. This is often overlooked in the FB debate. Still, I wouldn't own it.
     
    #13     Aug 7, 2012
  4. That might be about the most anyone does anymore lol!

    Seriously though, FB is complete and total trash. It is a serious pit of garbage. Another company basically proved that 80+% of clicks they were charged for were false - and FB didn't even respond to the charge.

    I think ol' Zuck just realized that counterfeiting money always gets people arrested, so he decided that clicks=money and why not counterfeit the clicks? I seriously think the SEC/FBI/Secret service need to investigate these guys - if there has EVER been ONE click that was fraud, the company should be shut down.

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    #14     Aug 7, 2012
  5. Where have I heard this before? Oh yeah...late 90s. YHOO went from $20 per share to $500 in 3 years. Whats it trading at now? Oh yeah...$15.

    First rule of investing....Fundamentals ALWAYS apply. P/E ratio will always come back down to earth whether in the form of a crash, or in the form of staying the same price for 10+ years.
     
    #15     Aug 7, 2012
  6. Good statement, but you have a problem -Facebook has 1 billion users, and there are 7 billion people in the world. Are you suggesting that with their top rate performance they will level off at 1 billion forever? You said 90%, which is completely wrong. Facebook has under 50% of the current internet market share, and much less share counting the people who will be using the internet in the close future.

    I wish so many people wouldn't emotionally hate Facebook. I'm not buying now, but HurricaneUS is wrong in this case.








    Yes :D

    Amazon -with all the failing retail co's, Amazon is expected to really grow. This is why their price is big. :)
     
    #16     Aug 7, 2012
  7. You may well be right, but this in a way is even worse than charging for an account. People would desert it in droves if they got the idea that Big Brother was watching. Of course, it doesn't seem to hurt GOOG, so I may be wrong.

    For now however, FB hasn't shown any ability to generate actual money. This is a crucial distinction with GOOG, which a lot of investors didn't understand but they could see it produced money.

    Another factor that would worry me if I were an institutional holder of FB is Zuckerberg. It is one thing to give up virtually all voting control to a Steve Jobs. I wasn't exactly blown away by him on the last CC.
     
    #17     Aug 7, 2012
  8. Recently FB has even more garbage on the main part of the site "the timeline" there are way more frequent ads and other annoying crap, New frequent unwanted notifications that started the past couple weeks.

    Now that it's public , they will add more garbage to try to monetize and it will just drive more people off it.


    Myspace downfall turned into an ad infested craphole too.
     
    #18     Aug 7, 2012
  9. achilles28

    achilles28

    Truth be told, lots of these tech giants - GOOG, FB, ebay, paypal - have ties to the CIA. Most were founded or provided seed money through In-Q-Tel or one of it's partner organizations. In-Q-Tel is a CIA venture capital outfit that funds tech startups. Whether that holds any water to FB's longevity, probably. It's public information companies like google and FB now work with the NSA on "cyber-security initiatives" etc. This all lends me to think that even if FB can't generate a profit, so long as it remains popular, it'll continue to operate.
     
    #19     Aug 7, 2012
  10. and of those 7 billion about 1.5 billion are children leaving 5.5 billion. And of those 5.5 billion left only 83% are literate leaving 4.5 billion. Another 750 million are old and not likely to use facebook leaving 3.75 billion. 1 billion already use facebook so thats 2.75 billion potential customers. Of course, China has its own social networks Qzone, renren, 51.com, and Kaixin001 which comprise pretty much most of the internet using chinese market. (743 million users combined as of 2010) So that leaves 2 billion potential customers.

    Remember though that 60% of the worlds population lives on less than $2 per day. So its a good bet since most of the people that have computers and internet are already on their social networks, that those leftover 2 billion are probably a good portion of the 2 billion that do not have enough money for internet or computers or even live in areas with access to computers. Dont forget about the millions of people in prison that wont be using facebook. I estimate that BEST case scenario is facebook could grow by 50% and then will only grow with world population growth. This means that facebook, once all the hype is gone will be worth at best no more than $11 with a 25 P/E ratio in my opinion.
     
    #20     Aug 8, 2012