This is coming from someone who was sticking up for Ashley Dupree saying she did what she had to do because life was hard. I assume you know her personally for you to have known how tough her life was and what she was thinking. You'll hypothesize, theorize, assume and fabricate to take up for someone like her and to give her the benefit of the doubt, but you sure don't mind making negative blanket statements about Christians. LOL figures. What was that you told me about judge not lest ye be judged in the Spitzer thread? How about you let it go and let me believe what I believe and don't tell me what I believe is wrong. Especially when the only basis you have for your argument/statement is your opinion.
My ass...Take a look at the whitehouse and what the god influence has created there...In fact all the creeps at enron and worldcom were a bunch of hardcore christians...Most people use christianity as a cover for sinister activities or excuse their sins as acceptable since they are beleivers....No thanks keep your religion in your bedroom like your sex.I dont want to hear it or have to listen to any of it in public lfe whether its islam,christianity,judaism etc...Had enough of it already.
The Truth About Death And Resurrection And now for the rest of the story... Yes, much from ancient religions was borrowed, mishmashed together, and woven into an evolving legacy. And this is because I was misunderstood even amongst my apostles. There were few teachers who grasped what I was talking about. Their voices were drowned out while the outspoken tied my legacy to Jewish tradition, largely because they misunderstood the crucifixion and judged it to be a magical ritual of blood sacrifice. The link to Judaism was mythical, as well as many links to other ancient rites. These were the cultural tendencies of the time, driven by guilt, fear and superstition. So there is much fiction...but based on a true story...as true as a story can be. The catalyst for all of this speculation was an out-of-pattern presence of a man who exuded joy, innocence, and mercy. He attracted a growing audience, and could not teach them all alone. So he gathered a small group who would learn more completely what he was teaching, and satisfy the growing curiosity of the audience as rumor spread. He taught the equality of all. And that all, are one, lost, and far from home. He called this one, the 'wayward son'. He said that this one is the only begotten Son of God, wandering far from Home. He called on his brothers, the whole world, to follow him back home. He taught that the Son had power, and proved it through miracles. He taught that all are innocent, and power is derived from the Truth of universal innocence which is translated as "holiness". He taught that the Son is invulnerable, and that an innocent mind cannot suffer. As a teacher, he allowed a drama to unfold that would demonstrate all he had taught was true. He passed through an otherwise tortuous ordeal without suffering...I repeat...WITHOUT SUFFERING. This was his 'proof' that an innocent mind cannot suffer. He repaired the damage done to his body to show that the Son of God cannot be hurt, and thus, showed that that past is of no effect. And if the past has no effects on the Son of God, and if all are the Son, then all is forgivable, and all must be forgiven. All those appearing in the flesh - in time and space - are crucified...are the crucified Son of God. The crucifixion and the resurrection of Jesus was a PARODY of Son's past, present and future as "man". It is a parody of the journey of the 'wayward Son', otherwise known as the "prodigal son". "Man" is the "fallen" Son, who's seeming existence arises from a mistake in the Son's powerful mind. Man is the symbol of a split and splintered mind, struggling to survive, and warring with himself. "A house divided against itself" means that a mind divided against itself cannot stand. So it "falls". "Man" is the product of that fall. The mind is the Son's. To use a parable, half of the Son's mind makes this universe. In the other half resides the Kingdom of God. In between lies only a faint memory, held in safe keeping by a Guide created to heal the rift. This Guide has been called "Holy Spirit". This, in fact, is the Teacher of Jesus, who guided him Home. Jesus did miracles "in remembrance of Me"...that is, in remembrance of himself as the Teacher...as the Son of God...in remembrance of the beginning of the "fall", and beyond that, the remembrance of the "Kingdom of God". This Teacher IS the SAVIOR, the communication link between the Father and the wayward aspects of the Son's mind. The Teacher was created by the Father, and accepted by the Son, to handle what is nothing more than a communication breakdown. This One is equal to all he teaches. Through Him, each comes to know that he is Him. And this is accomplished through the laying down of the individualized self-concept...symbolized by "man" and these "bodies" of "flesh". These must be "laid down" because they are foreign to reality, and so not part of Heaven. The Son IS Heaven, and so "man" blocks the Son's awareness of himself. Yet with the guidance of the Spirit-Teacher, the flesh may be transcended by putting it in proper perspective. This restores power to the mind of the Son. Miracles are evidence that one has been taught by this Teacher I speak of . Jesus spoke the words of this Teacher in first person, saying, I am the Truth, the Way and the Life. He spoke first person, because the Teacher had successfully taught him the Truth. So Jesus no longer thought of himself as a man, and considered his body as nothing. He became the Teacher, because in Truth he was the Teacher. That is, the part of Jesus existence that was real - his mind - recognized itself as the Teacher....therefore the concept of a body must be a falsehood...an illusion inside a deluded mind. Jesus did not consider anything to be outside of his mind. When he assigned the world to a place "outside" his mind, it became absolutely nothing to him. But while training his mind according to his Teacher, he thought of the whole world as inside his mind. And for that matter, the whole Kingdom of God! And as he forgave the world "seventy times seven" times, he arrived at a point where he had forgiven *himself* completely of the "crime" of proving separation was possible....proving it through the making of this world and all things in it. The Teacher proved to Jesus that it was false, therefore, "I and the Father are one", was the rock bottom Truth. Jesus remained in the world only so long as to pass this message along. But the Teacher remains, for any who have ears to hear. If you listen to this Teacher, you are a "follower" of Jesus. All will follow, because the Teacher has promised the Father to bring the entire Son home...intact. Itâs only a matter of time. (continued next)
The Two Kingdoms These kingdoms of which I spoke earlier, are opposite each other in every way, and cannot coexist. Not one part of one can be part of the other. The one is "hell", and exists on faith. The other is "Heaven", and IS reality. It needs no faith. The "fall" was a thought process leading to chaos, and subsequent attempt to make order out of chaos. It was a fallen thought process that led to the "big bang", and the making of an alter-universe opposite and upside down Reality...the Kingdom of God. Hence, this entire universe is a mistake in the mind of the Son, to be "forgiven". In this universe, the Son is separated from himself and from his Father. His Self is masked by all manner of form, and he calls himself "man". But he is also beast, and every manner of creepy thing. Because there is only one who makes a mistake, all must forgive all in order to escape the "laws" of this self-made universe. Each must forgive all. Only then does he forgive the Son of God. Only then does he come to know that he is the Son of God. Only then does he return Home. For the Son of God is innocent and cannot be blamed for his mistake. To blame him is to blame yourself. So "love your neighbor as yourself"...because your neighbor is yourself...masked by an illusion of separation. By forgiving your "brother" - your equal - you may see past the illusion of physical separation, and see that there is in fact no separation, no damage done to the Son of God. He appears damaged only so long as you see him as guilty. When you see past the illusion, you truly "see", and are no longer "blind". Those who are blind cannot see that the Kingdom of God is all around them. It is "here", "now"...so-to-speak. But a deluded mind cannot see it through its self-imposed filters. The predominant history of religion is mostly about the blind trying to help their brothers see, before they have learned to see themselves. So it is the blind leading the blind. The Kingdom will come, whenever the Son wills. If you do not recognize yourself as the Son, then you cannot "will" the Kingdom to come to you. Yet, if you are certain you are the Son of God, and that you remain as the Father created you, then you can raise the dead. And this is because the Son made death, and so he can abolish it as well. Yet, a few "saw" the Kingdom come, and they did not taste death. It comes to your awareness as your awareness of Truth expands as you put your faith in it. As the Truth dawns on the horizons of your mind, the world you think you see fades away and disappears. Left standing is the Son of God. All else has been "forgiven". Truly, my resurrection occurred long before I taught from a cross and from a tomb. These were demonstrations of the power of an awakened, aware mind which has placed its loyalties in Spirit, and not in flesh. This state of mind is achieved through mind training...through the practice of letting the truth be true...letting your brothers "sins" be as nothing...as if never happened. Because in Truth, they never did happen. That means this world never happened. It is a hypothetical construct in the mind of the Son. It is an hallucination...a delusion based on error enriched thought processes. It is only faith which holds these hallucinations out as 'solid' and 'real'. But these are an insignificant dream relative to the Son's reality. The resurrection is the symbol of an awakened mind. As a PARODY, it is the symbol of the entire mind of the Son of God...which includes all who ever wandered through time and space and flesh. Resurrection is the sign of man's future. His destiny is to awaken from a deep sleep that began ever before "Adam" fell asleep. Death is the symbol of mind asleep. There is no such thing as death in Truth. And I, Jesus, proved it. Because I did it, so can you. That's what it means that all are saved by my resurrection. It was a parody of the last useless journey the wayward Son would ever take. It is a symbol of the Son's destiny. And because all are one in the "only begotten", it means that all will awaken to the Truth, and find themselves standing in the Kingdom of God. It went away in his awareness only...and came back again when he willed to be one with the Father. Understand this one Truth, and understand it well, if you would not taste death: I remain as God created me. And you remain as God created you...unchanged, unchangeable. Not a body, but Spirit, equal to God, who's mind thought it would "change" reality. To the extent that you think this world is real, ithe "spell" has succeeded. To the extent that you withdraw faith in it, and invest it in the Kingdom, the Kingdom will come to you. If you remain as God created you, then there is no such thing as death. Therefore death you made, and death you may abolish. For you, reader, are the Son of God, as I am. Here is perfect equality. Suffice it, then, that you have work to do to play your part. The ending must remain obscure to you until your part is done. Upon your part depends all the rest. As you take the role assigned to you, salvation comes a little nearer each uncertain heart that does not beat as yet in tune with God. When revelation of your oneness comes, it will be known and fully understood. Meanwhile, forgive, forgive, forgive. That is enough. To forgive is to let what is true be true. All are innocent. That is the Truth. Blessings this Eastertide. Jesus
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It always amazes me that more Christians do not act more "Christ like" in times like this. This thread is under attack (normal reactions from the lost souls of this world). Did Christ argue his beliefs with anyone ? No He walked the walk and talked his talk to those that wanted truth and to those that did not or scoffed at his message he ignored and prayed for. It's normal for evil and stupidity to attack light but to fight back with arguments is to cast pearls to swine. Say what you've got to say and pray for the lost. This is just between YOU and GOD and we all have our own paths.
Joab, are you a troll or simply confused! Your comment:- "It's normal for evil and stupidity to attack light but to fight back with arguments is to cast pearls to swine." Is nothing short of abuse directed at people you disagree with! Surely you must realize that Jesus requires all Christians to strive towards emulating his behavior. The following comment that you made in your post pretty much sums up what's required. "He walked the walk and talked his talk to those that wanted truth and to those that did not or scoffed at his message he ignored and prayed for." Perhaps Easter is a good time to reflect on his teachings and how you can best serve him! Best Regards Johno