For my Christians Friends

Discussion in 'Politics' started by nyxtrader, Mar 23, 2008.

  1. stu

    stu

    No, that's what you say I'm saying, that's not what I said.

    Wrong again. That's what you've made up, it's not what I said and therefore has no bearing on reality.

    This is what I am saying.
    I can propose a very clear and simple test, based on fact and the scientific method which would convince enough to constitute proof.

    You are the one who cannot provide any proof.


    ps.
    Is it religion which teaches you how to lower yourself down to that level of self-contradiction and hypocrisy all in one sentence. Or can you manage it by yourself?
     
    #681     Apr 24, 2008
  2. stu

    stu

    yeah, exactly, that would be because.... like perfection god don't exist.
     
    #682     Apr 24, 2008
  3. neophyte321

    neophyte321 Guest

    pie r squared ... or a perfect circle, does it or does it not exist?
     
    #683     Apr 24, 2008
  4. DerekD

    DerekD

    A relative measure. It's called "perfect" because Pi = circumference/diameter. An arbitrary designation that's relative to a circle whose circumference when divided by its diameter is not 3.14159.

    Perfection is therefore some arbitrary and subjective line drawn in the sand that is always relative to some other arbitrary and subjective measure.
     
    #684     Apr 24, 2008
  5. volente_00

    volente_00


    So since the definition of God varies greatly and its own believers are not sure what would constitute evidence of one, then how could it even be possible to scientifically test for something of that nature ? Relgion with a fixed doctrine yes, but a deity no.


    Atheism is an assertion based on lack of evidence.



    What can be asserted / concluded without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."
     
    #685     Apr 24, 2008
  6. volente_00

    volente_00

    For the argument on which God to choose.


    Which road does one choose when presented with many choices that all lead to the same destination ?
     
    #686     Apr 24, 2008
  7. DerekD

    DerekD


    When a jury decides a case in which the defendant lacks supporting evidence for his or her contention to the contrary, are they coming to a conclusion or an assertion?
     
    #687     Apr 24, 2008
  8. DerekD

    DerekD

    You're asserting that the roads lead to the same destination. Yet, none of the world religions state that they do given their dissimilar descriptions of their destinations.
     
    #688     Apr 24, 2008
  9. stu

    stu

    No. pie r squared does not exist, except perhaps when mistaken for pi..

    Pi r² does.
    π r² is defined. It is proven. That way it exists.

    Pi is an irrational number, it can be argued therefore a perfect circle does not exist.


    Your point being what exactly?




    Oh, and what DerekD said.
     
    #689     Apr 24, 2008
  10. DerekD

    DerekD

    What you fail to realize, perhaps based on your own conjured notion of god, is that all of the world religions provide the grounds upon which to test for their gods. Their gods are distinctly unique and have unique manifestations and attributes.

    Rather than list their uniqueness, just do a brief study of the world's religions, past and present, and you'll see just how easy it would be to test to see if any of these God's manifested are authentic. But all testing predicates on the manifestation of any of these gods in the material world as that is the only means in which we can test them. If they cannot manifest themselves in the material world, then they don't exist. There has to be interaction in the material world.
     
    #690     Apr 24, 2008