For my Christians Friends

Discussion in 'Politics' started by nyxtrader, Mar 23, 2008.

  1. That was really ignorant, please crawl back under your rock.

    A day of peace would be nice.
     
    #41     Mar 23, 2008
  2. unto us a child is born,
    unto us a son is given,
    and the government shall be upon his shoulder,
    and his name shall be called,
    Wonderfull, Counceler, the Mighty God,
    The Everlasting Father, and the Prince of Peace.
     
    #42     Mar 23, 2008
  3. ggoyal

    ggoyal

    Wha the fuck is all this? This isn't the god damn testament review. This is a trading forum, next people are going to start writing their fuckin diet journal on here.
     
    #43     Mar 23, 2008
  4. :D :D

    I ate green eggs and ham.
     
    #44     Mar 23, 2008
  5. i see superstition is alive and well on et. and now for the rest of the story:

    HAPPY RESSURECTION OF MITHRAS DAY
    Having been born of the virgin Anahita, in a cave, on December 25; with twelve disciples, the god Mithras travelled far and wide as a teacher and illuminator of men. At about age 30 he began his ministry, offering salvation based on faith, compassion, knowledge and valor.

    Suffering a violent death, Mithras arose from his tomb an event celebrated annually at the Spring Equinox. After the earthly mission of this god had been accomplished, he took part in a Last Supper with his companions before ascending to heaven, to forever protect the faithful from above.

    The similarities to Christianity go on in much more detail: baptism, that he atoned for all man’s sins … etc. Coincidence? Did the followers of Mithras co-opt their god fable from Jesus and the Christian tradition? Not likely, since the cult of Mithras preceded Christianity by over 600 years.

    How do Christians deal with this? Well, one of two ways. They either deny such a god figure existed, out of ignorance or avoidance, or, like the famous 2nd century Christian apologist Justin Martyr (1 Apologia, 66, 4), they denounce the devil for having sent a God so similar to Jesus – yet preceding him.

    As Christians celebrate their Easter, they are in fact celebrating the Resurrection Festival of Mithras. His will be done.
     
    #45     Mar 23, 2008
  6. mrbud

    mrbud

    Wrong.

    I'm a Christian and I celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ- Lord and Savior!

    Happy Easter to my fellow Christians.
     
    #46     Mar 23, 2008
  7. The only things the Mithras are known for is killing the "bull" in the spring - LOL!!! :D

    Too bad their whole story was passed on by "word" (very little scripture) and it was a different story from one location to the next - Oh well, they tried. :p
     
    #47     Mar 23, 2008
  8. to be accurate you should be saying you celebrate the myth of the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

    why is this thread in trading. it has nothing to do with trading. it should be in chit chat.
     
    #48     Mar 23, 2008
  9. christianity didnt borrow everything from mitha. christianity is a mishmash of many early religions and gods. you really have to have blind faith not to see the similaraties:

    Attis of Phrygia

    --Attis was born on December 25 of the Virgin Nana.
    --He was considered the savior who was slain for the salvation of mankind.
    --His body as bread was eaten by his worshippers
    --His priests were “eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven.”
    --He was both the Divine Son and the Father.
    --On “Black Friday,” he was crucified on a tree, from which his holy blood ran down to redeem the earth.
    --He descended into the underworld.
    --After three days, Attis was resurrected on March 25 (as tradition held of Jesus) as the “Most High God.


    Dionysus/Bacchus

    Dionysus or Bacchus is thought of as being Greek, but he is a remake of the Egyptian god Osiris, whose cult extended throughout a large part of the ancient world for thousands of years. Dionysus’s religion was well-developed in Thrace, northeast of Greece, and Phrygia, which became Galatia, where Attis also later reigned. Although a Dionysus is best remembered for the rowdy celebrations in his name, which was Latinized as Bacchus, he had many other functions and contributed several aspects to the Jesus character:

    --Dionysus was born of a virgin on December 25 and, as the Holy Child, was placed in a manger.
    --He was a traveling teacher who performed miracles.
    --He “rode in a triumphal procession on an a##.”
    --He was a sacred king killed and eaten in an eucharistic ritual for fecundity and purification.
    --Dionysus rose from the dead on March 25.
    --He was the God of the Vine, and turned water into wine.
    --He was called “King of Kings” and “God of Gods.”
    --He was considered the “Only Begotten Son,” Savior,” “Redeemer,” “Sin Bearer,” Anointed One,” and the “Alpha and Omega.”
    --He was identified with the Ram or Lamb.
    --His sacrificial title of “Dendrites” or “Young Man of the Tree” intimates he was hung on a tree or crucified.


    Horus/Osiris of Egypt


    In the Egyptian myth, Horus and his once-and-future Father, Osiris, are frequently interchangeable, as in “I and my Father are one.” Concerning Osiris, Walker says:

    Of all savior-gods worshiped at the beginning of the Christian era, Osiris may have contributed
    more details to the evolving Christ figure than any other. Already very old in Egypt, Osiris was
    identified with nearly every other Egyptian god and was on the way to absorbing them all. He
    had well over 200 divine names. He was called the Lord of Lords, King of Kings, God of Gods.
    He was the Resurrection and the Life, the Good Shepherd, Eternity and Everlastingness, the god
    who “made men and women to be born again.” Budge says, “From first to last, Osiris was to the
    Egyptians the god-man who suffered, an died, and rose again, and reigned eternally in heaven.
    They believed that they would inherit eternal life, just as he had done . . .”
    Osiris’s coming was announced by Three Wise Men: the three stars Mintaka, Anilam, and
    Alnitak in the belt of Orion, which point directly to Osiris’s star in the east, Sirius (Sothis),
    significator of his birth . . .
    Certainly Osiris was a prototypical Messiah, as well as a devoured Host. His flesh was eaten
    in the form of communion cakes of wheat, the “plant of Truth.” . . . The cult of Osiris contributed
    a number of ideas and phrases to the Bible. The 23rd Psalm copied an Egyptian text appealing
    to Osiris the Good Shepherd to lead the deceased to the “green pastures” and “still waters” of the
    nefer-nefer land, to restore the soul to the body, and to give protection in the valley of the shadow
    of death (the Tuat). The Lord’s Prayer was prefigured by an Egyptian hymn to Osiris-Amen
    beginning, “O Amen, O Amen, who are in heaven.” Amen was also invoked at the end of every
    prayer.

    As Col. James Chruchward naively exclaims, “The teachings of Osiris and Jesus are wonderfully alike. Many passages are identically the same, word for word.”

    Osiris was also the god of the vine and a great travelling teacher who civilized the world. He was the ruler and judge of the dead. In his passion, Osiris was plotted against and killed by Set and “the 72.” Like that of Jesus, Osiris’s resurrection served to provide hope to all that they may do likewise and become eternal.

    Osiris’s “son” or renewed incarnation, Horus, shares the following in common with Jesus:

    --Horus was born of the virgin Isis-Merion December 25 in a cave/manger with his birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men.
    --His earthly father was named “Seb” (“Joseph”).
    --He was of royal descent.
    --At at 12, he was a child teacher in the Temple, and at 30, he was baptized having disappeared for 18 years.
    --Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus or Iarutana (Jordan) by “Anup the Baptizer” (“John the Baptist”), who was decapitated.
    --He had 12 desciples, two of who were his “witnesses” and were named “Anup” and “Aan” (the two “Johns”).
    --He performed miracles, exorcised demons and raised El-Azarus (“El-Osiris”), from the dead.
    --Horus walked on water.
    --His personal epithet was “Iusa,” the “ever-becoming son” of “Ptah,” the “Father.” He was thus called “Holy Child.”
    --He delivered a “Sermon on the Mount” and his followers recounted the “Sayings of Iusa.”
    --Horus was transfigured on the Mount.
    --He was crucified between two thieves, buried for three days in a tomb, and resurrected.
    --He was also the “Way, the Truth, the Light,” “Messiah,” “God’s Anointed Son,” “the “Son of Man,” the “Good Shepherd,” the “Lamb of God,” the “Word made flesh,” the “Word of Truth,” etc.
    --He was “the Fisher” and was associated with the Fish (“Ichthys”), Lamb and Lion.
    --He came to fulfill the Law.
    --Horus was called “the KRST,” or “Anointed One.”
    --Like Jesus, “Horus was supposed to reign one thousand years.”



    Mithra of Persia

    --Mithra was born of a virgin on December 25 in a cave, and his birth was attended by shepherds bearing gifts.
    --He was considered a great traveling teacher and master.
    --He had 12 companions or disciples.
    --Mithra’s followers were promised immortality.
    --He performed miracles.
    --As the “great bull of the Sun,” Mithra sacrificed himself for world peace.
    --He was buried in atomb and after three days rose again.
    --His resurrection was celebrated every year.
    --He was called “the Good Shepherd” and identified with both the Lamb and the Lion.
    --He was considered the “Way, the Truth and the Light,” and the “Logos,” [Word] “Redeemer,” “Savior” and “Messiah.”
    --His sacred day was Sunday, the “Lord’s Day,” hundreds of years before the appearance of Christ.
    --Mithra had his principal festival on what was later to become Easter.
    --His religion had a eucharist or “Lord’s Supper,” at which Mithra said, “He who shall nto eat of my body nor drink of my blood so that he may be one with me and I with him, shall not be saved.”
    --“His annual sacrifice is the Passover of the Magi, a symbolical atonement of pledge of moral and physical regeneration.”



    Zoroaster/Zarathustra

    --Zoroaster was born of a virgin and “immaculate conception by a ray of divine reason.”
    --He was baptized in a river.
    --In his youth he astounded wise men with his wisdom.
    --He was tempted in the wilderness by the devil.
    --He began his ministry at age 30.
    --Zoroaster baptized with water, fire and “holy wind.”
    --He cast out demons and restored the sight to a blind man.
    --He taught about heaven and hell, and revealed mysteries, including resurrection, judgment, salvation and the apocalypse.
    --He had a sacred cup or grail.
    --He was slain.
    --His religion had a eucharist.
    --He was the “Word made flesh.”
    --Zoroaster’s followers expected a “second coming” in the virgin-born Saoshynt or Savior, who is to come in 2341 CE and begin his ministry at age 30, ushering in a golden age.
     
    #49     Mar 23, 2008
  10. vhehn, why do you care where all that BS came from, I mean screw it BS is BS regardless of whether it was built on top of older BS or not

    like do you sit all day thinking where Britney got that line; "hit me baby one more time"
     
    #50     Mar 23, 2008