For my Christians Friends

Discussion in 'Politics' started by nyxtrader, Mar 23, 2008.

  1. stu

    stu

    #241     Apr 10, 2008
  2. Winning is relative. This world is about winners and losers. The market is a good metaphor for that. Its a place to compare your Benz to the other's Porche.

    My point is that whether winning or losing, in this system all are losers. The reality is that all players have everything, given by God as their inheritance. This is exchanged to make comparisons...to be special, different, autonomous. The penchant to make comparisons is what reduces the magnitude of your inheritance to littleness...even if it looks like a Benz.

    Note well: Both winners and losers die. What kind of "winning" system is that? What I'm saying is that the Son of God, in who's inheritance you share, will never be content with less than what God gave him, and God does not give less than everything, always, without exception. Therefore, if you are not experiencing the magnitude of everything, you must have tossed your inheritance away. For what? The experience of inequality can be your only option, since all the Sons of God are equal.

    The drive to compare is what gives rise to the alien phenomenon known as "man", which is literally a comparison device from its very inception. Man "lives" only in comparison with "death". But he is not really living...he is comparing. As a result, everything in this world is *little*...even Texas. It is all about littleness. The Kingdom is about abundance. I challenge everyone to consider what that means. It is not *better*. It is total, complete, glorious and magnanimous. It is *everything* belonging to *all*.

    The power of your inheritance can never be sold or given away. However, it can be "squandered" on the making of this world. Yes, you have the power to make this whole universe as a means to make comparisons. This sets up a trap in which you fool yourself into thinking you are content. Because of who you are in reality, that is an impossibility.

    Jesus
     
    #242     Apr 10, 2008
  3. DerekD

    DerekD

    The problem with the analogy of a map and the bible is a simple one.

    Following a map does not take faith, it takes trust.

    I can immediately go out and test to see if the map is correct (trustworthy) or not. And generally at each step of the way.

    With the bible or any religious book or guide, I cannot.
     
    #243     Apr 10, 2008
  4. Yes, for the men of reason, this is the case. However, faith is often self-referential. The believers will tell you that they see proofs (tests met) of the correctness of the bible all the time. This is because they are viewing events in their world through the prism of their faith.
     
    #244     Apr 10, 2008
  5. volente_00

    volente_00

    #245     Apr 11, 2008
  6. volente_00

    volente_00


    So you have 100% tested and can show me PROOF there is absolutely no God ?


    As I said before, lack of evidence does not prove non existance. Tell me what oxygen looks like again.


    "If a watch proves the existence of a watchmaker but the universe does not prove the existence of a great Architect, then I consent to be called a fool."
     
    #246     Apr 11, 2008
  7. volente_00

    volente_00


    In God We Trust, your nation's motto


    Faith is no different from trust. Both require belief without evidence.
     
    #247     Apr 11, 2008
  8. volente_00

    volente_00

    #248     Apr 11, 2008
  9. Turok

    Turok

    V00:
    >So do you expect me to believe anothers
    >experience about seeing oxygen ?

    No, get your own bucket.

    Next.

    JB
     
    #249     Apr 11, 2008
  10. Turok

    Turok

    V00:
    >Faith is no different from trust. Both require
    >belief without evidence.

    If you trust *or* have faith without evidence, you'll be in a world of hurt about 99.9% of the time -- only luck can save you.

    JB
     
    #250     Apr 11, 2008