For most CV is just another flu but...

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by southall, Mar 29, 2020.

  1. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    You missed, realise over reaction then keep up the fear and pretence to cover up previous mistake.

    UK news on BBC site.

    6000 C19 deaths last week and 4000 deaths caused by the lockdown, illnesses saveable to FEAR so high they'd prefer to sit a heart attack out or a stroke than risk getting a virus they've likely already head.

    The World thanks to over sensitive PC snowflakes, truely is screwed up.
     
    #191     Apr 21, 2020
  2. Vindago

    Vindago

    yes, you keep telling that to yourself...
     
    #192     Apr 21, 2020
  3. luisHK

    luisHK

    Uh no , doctors have been worrying loud in a few countries the emergency rooms are much emptier than before the coronasaga, people with dangerous conditions like strokes decide to deal with it at home . Not hard to guess it doesn t work out that well much of the time.
    On the other hand, even without lockdown, those people might not be able or willing to go to the emergency room with the population scared of contagion and the emergency wards much busier than during lockdown.
    Most medical and dental centers are closed around here, not sure for whose safety, so not a great time for everyone s health
     
    #193     Apr 21, 2020
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  4. Vindago

    Vindago

    I don't know where you live but here in Milan most health workers were busy managing a tremendous influx of covid patients, so all other non essential medical sector were shut down or working at reduced capacity. I have a personal friend who is a pediatric surgeon that has been working in covid section for the last 5 weeks. Many health care facilities would only treat covid patients, while few others would remain open for the remaining patients. But during the exponential phase it was risky to even brake an arm as hospital had to prioritize.

    so please stop telling alternative misinformation bullshit.
     
    #194     Apr 21, 2020
  5. mlawson71

    mlawson71

    I really don't understand the "The quarantine worked, we should've never had quarantine!" reaction. It makes no sense to me but I see it often.
     
    #195     Apr 21, 2020
  6. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    WRBanker ?? got to hate him, glad he's on ignore, hint hint!!
     
    #196     Apr 21, 2020
  7. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    normally 4hour A&E waiting times, mates said it's about 8mins currently, there is nobody going, okay 1/2 are wasters that just like the attention but still.

    News article got edited, 4000 down to 1800 currently.

    So lockdown UK saved errrr ZERO, Murdered 1800 so lockdown on -1800 nice.
     
    #197     Apr 21, 2020
  8. luisHK

    luisHK

    if you at least took the time to read mainstream information before hinting at "alternative misinformation " you would be less insulting, while looking a tad smarter.

    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-h...t-at-hidden-toll-of-coronavirus-idUKKCN21R13C
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/14/doc...s-er-visits-drop-heart-attacks-dont-stop.html

    You can look up yourself photos of empty or nearly empty emergency rooms in Madrid, from last week.
    I live there, it is one of the few cities that saw its health sector initially overwhelmed by coronavirus cases yet that time has passed now, they are closing parts of the Ifema temporary hospital and last week already it was mentioned in news the temporary morgue in the ice skating rink being close. Yet at 8pm still a whole bunch of people go to their balcony for their most exciting daily activity and clap in honour of the health care workers who are happy for folks to stay under house arrest so they get less work.

    Personally I find the video in the link below disgusting ( if you´re italian i don´t need to translatye it to you). It was from Huelva at the very beginning of the quarantine, a part of Spain which was never hit hard by the virus, and didn´t see its services overwhelmed, yet its population has suffered the strictest quarantine in Western Europe like the rest of the country and we can´t trust the "hard working spanish" medics to be in a hurry to face again the usual tragic mess emergency wards are.

    www.eldiario.es/andalucia/huelva/Personal-Riotinto-muestra-urgencias-ciudadanos_0_1006149892.html

    Hard to say which cities would have seen their health care system devastated without lockdown, Stockholm so far managed it pretty well but obviously others wouldn´t have. I´ve been in an hospital and a private clinic at the beginning of the crisis in Madrid, when it started to look very bad, not at the emergency ward though, and the places were almost empty of patients (most appointments had been cancelled) yet well staffed. An aunt is working as a nurse in the emergency department of 2 different hospitals in Southern Catalonia, only about 180kms from hard hit Barcelona, yet there the hospitals apparently were never close to panic.
    Besides I´m not surprised a Swiss government official qualified Italy and Spain situation as a political spectacle, while explaining in Swiss they wouldn´t force the population into house arrest. Italy and Spain (more Spain probably) look once again more like banana republics than deserving members of the EU.
     
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    #198     Apr 21, 2020
  9. southall

    southall

    I was being conservative in my opening post by using 0.6%.

    "More than 20 percent of New York City residents tested positive for coronavirus antibodies in a study launched by Governor Cuomo which, if accurate, means as many as 1.7million people have been infected in the city - and that the mortality rate is between 0.6 and 0.8 percent, far greater than the 0.1 percent mortality rate of the flu."
     
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    #199     Apr 23, 2020
  10. luisHK

    luisHK

    Some more alternative misinformation bullshit I guess, from underground source The New York Times :

    Doctors fear there are more fatalities from untreated emergencies than from coronavirus, emergency rooms receive half the usual number of patients, heart and stroke units are almost empty


    https://us.yahoo.com/news/amid-coronavirus-crisis-heart-stroke-153340811.html
     
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    #200     Apr 27, 2020