For all the DACA people out there.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by peilthetraveler, Sep 5, 2017.

  1. piezoe

    piezoe

    Same thing happened at Jackson State, but that was a black school and much less attention was paid. At my school a kid was bayoneted by a guard troop and lost a leg over it. For those who are too young to remember this period of our history I can't emphasize enough how serious this DACA issue is and the tremendous civil unrest it is extremely likely to foment. Don't take this issue lightly, or think it is a joke.
     
    #21     Sep 6, 2017
  2. jem

    jem

    Hugely supported?

    In a slanted and weighted poll Yougov / Economist over the weekend found that only 55 percent of the people supported DACA.

    The poll was 520 Dems 592 Independents 375 Republicans
    They also found Trump supporters were against it.
     
    #22     Sep 6, 2017
  3. This seems like kind of a key point to me. The others are not voting for Trump if the alternative is Anthony Weiner.
     
    #23     Sep 6, 2017
  4. fhl

    fhl

    Yeah. We need to piss all over the law and constitution so liberals won't riot.

    I really don't think you would have liked my post if you knew why i couldn't get it out of my head.
     
    #24     Sep 6, 2017
  5. Total nonsense. You might have forgotten that those college-age kids were getting sent to the Nam. Only a handful will be deported.
     
    #25     Sep 6, 2017
  6. ‘Bluffed their way into total victory’: GOP ‘furious’ as Trump caves to Dem debt ceiling demands



    In their negotiations for government funding, Congressional Democrats wanted to pass a three-month debt ceiling increase that would keep the government funded through mid-December.

    Congressional Republicans opposed such a measure, as they feared it would give Democrats more leverage to reauthorize Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) protections for undocumented immigrants who were brought to the United States as children.

    However, as the Washington Post reports, Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) convinced Trump to go along with them on their three-month debt limit plan — and Republicans in Congress are not happy about it.

    One Republican aide told Axios reporter Jonathan Swan that the Democrats “bluffed their way into total victory” over the GOP, and bemoaned that “DACA will be reauthorized without strings.” Additionally, the aide wrote that Schumer has now “inserted himself into all the negotiations in the winter, including tax, spending, and immigration.”


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    #26     Sep 6, 2017
  7. There was no civil war over sending American kids to Vietnam against their will, where most people knew there was a pretty good chance they would come home in a body bag. Why would there be a civil war over sending illegal immigrant kids back to their families in Mexico? I mean, it's not like they're being dropped off in the jungle with no support structure. Their ENTIRE FAMILY is over there, not to mention the Mexican government has said it will offer all DACA recipients a job bank, scholarships and a youth credit program.

    The DACA kids that go back will have tons of choice jobs offered to them because they are educated and speak English well. Every business in any tourist area would love to have them working for them for their English skills alone. If anything, these kids are going to be pretty well off once they get settled back to their home countries.
     
    #27     Sep 6, 2017
  8. There won't be any DACA kiddies getting sent back the Mexico, so lets not get all worked up. Worst case, current crowd gets to stay and the program moving forward get nixed for anyone not already here. Let us not forget that Emperor Obama and crowd had all the power in the world to legally legislate an immigration program during the first two years of Dear Leaders reign. They did nothing. Obama, true to form, left a nice landmine for Trump and company when he illegally and unconstitutionally decreed that these DACA's could stay for all perpetuity. Trump is just trying to put this decision back where it belongs. That would be congress. Congress, cowards that they are, don't want to make the decision, they only want the campaign issue. Fix the problem, campaign issue goes away and we can't have that. It will be interesting to see if they grow a pair. My money is that in six months this will be of little significance. We'll have much, much bigger problems than this chicken shit. This won't matter. Statues won't matter. Who gets to take a dump where won't matter. Everything is about to be given some perspective.
     
    #28     Sep 6, 2017
  9. I don't know. That is true where it is and not where it is not.

    Many of the kids came with their parents- that is how they got to be daca kids, eh. Except for some that came unaccompanied. So the kids are here and the parents are here and even if daca is extended, it does not cover their parents who are illegals and DAPA was overturned by the courts. In addition, many of the daca kids are adults now and have have a pile of kids of their own who also known as American citizens who cannot be deported. You know, thats the thing that is underdiscussed. They talk about 800,000 illegals but that is not the sum total of the people resulting from illegal immigration because when they give birth to american citizens, those kids are not counted.
     
    #29     Sep 6, 2017
  10. This story is quiet a morally ugly situation.
    Imagine worldwide images of US police forces taking kids on US soil into places they do not wish to go for whatever reasons.
    Just coming back from a Holiday retreat in Latin America, I hope that few of Latin American inhabitants get to read such a thread, as there I witnessed how friendly they were with Americans and believed that Americans were decent people and had nothing against law abiding people coming from Latin countries. It would be very difficult for people to understand state forces against many children. Morally, no matter how one looks at it, there is something wrong about police tackling in a negative way children. Obviousy, I am not in America to understand fully the hatred that these children inspire to the US population.

    Trump should just get on with his wall promise.
    Everybody is still waiting for this promise to be kept.
    He get elected on this wall slogan, so what is he going after kids for?
    Is that a diversion so as not to build this wall?
     
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    #30     Sep 6, 2017