Fools thinking Ahmadinejad didn't threaten to destroy Israel

Discussion in 'Politics' started by dddooo, Dec 14, 2007.

  1. Ahmadinejad's remarks that Israel should be wiped out from the Islamic world map and relocated to either Europe or America and his reference to the Holocaust as a "fairy tale" led to widespread international protests in the last two years and even condemnation by the United Nations in January 2007.
    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/934703.html
     
    #71     Dec 14, 2007
  2. You see how much of a fraud you are dddooo??? Why do you think I did not post Haaretz article??? Cause I knew that you will attempt to distort it!!!

    Anyone could easily click on that link you posted and find out that the above comments you posted were not comments made by the Iranian opposition but rather comments made by Haaretz.

    You thought that no one will bother clicking on the link because you have done the leg work for them by posting the paragraph yourself.

    You, being the predictable zionist who is keen on promoting hate against your opponents, decided to post the above piece in a way that will make it look as if the opposition stated the above.

    You are becoming careless dddooo.
     
    #72     Dec 15, 2007
  3. Well said dddooo.
     
    #73     Dec 15, 2007
  4. LOL wael, give it up already. Haaretz (an honest newspaper according to you) says that Ahamadinejad threatened to wipe Israel off the map, that the entire world is outraged, that the UN condemned Iran's actions...and you're splitting hairs and claiming that Haaretz' wording is slightly different from Jpost's.

    I understand you can't grow your little thing but you can certainly grow some balls and admit that Ahmadinejad did threaten to wipe Israel off the map. It's OK wael, don't be afraid, we already know.

    PS Thanks PowerFade, I appreciate it.
     
    #74     Dec 15, 2007
  5. Haaretz is way smarter than you are. They did not fall in the same hole you and Jerusalem post fell in by claiming that the opposition accused Ahmadinajjad of wanting to wipe israel.

    If anything, Haaretz article backs my argument. Otherwise, they would've quoted them (The opposition) accusing Ahmadinajjad of wanting to wipe israel.

    That in itself is a proof that you and your Jpost lied my friend.
     
    #75     Dec 15, 2007
  6. Quotes from Osama bin Laden:

    "We should fully understand our religion. Fighting is a part of our religion and our Sharia [an Islamic legal code]. Those who love God and his Prophet and this religion cannot deny that. Whoever denies even a minor tenet of our religion commits the gravest sin in Islam."

    "Hostility toward America is a religious duty, and we hope to be rewarded for it by God . . . . I am confident that Muslims will be able to end the legend of the so-called superpower that is America." Time Magazine

    "The pieces of the bodies of infidels were flying like dust particles. If you would have seen it with your own eyes, you would have been very pleased, and your heart would have been filled with joy." -- At the wedding of his son in southern Kandahar about the 17 sailors who died suicide bombing of the USS Cole off the coast of Yemen

    "Every American man is an enemy to us." -- Independent.

    " . . . It is far better for anyone to kill a single American soldier than to squander his efforts on other activities." -- May 1998

    "We--with God's help--call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema, leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan's U.S. troops and the devil's supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson." Feb. 1998 - Bin Laden edict

    ``We are seeking to incite the (Islamic) nation to rise up to liberate its land and to (conduct) jihad (holy war) for the sake of God." -- al-Jazeera, June 1999.

    "`I was never afraid of death ... As Muslims, we believe that when we die, we go to heaven. Before a battle, God sends us ... tranquility." -- Independent, 1993.

    "I'm fighting so I can die a martyr and go to heaven to meet God. Our fight now is against the Americans." -- Osama bin Laden, quoted by Al-Quds Al-Arabi newspaper

    "We declared jihad against the US government, because the US government is unjust, criminal and tyrannical. It has committed acts that are extremely unjust, hideous and criminal whether directly or through its support of the Israeli occupation." - Osama bin Laden - to CNN in March 1997

    " . . . For the American forces to expect anything from me personally reflects a very narrow perception. Thousands of millions of Muslims are angry. The Americans should expect reactions from the Muslim world that are proportionate to the injustice they inflict." to Time Magazine Dec 1998

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    As Time Magazine, CNN, al-Jazeera, the Independent, and Al Quds Al-Arabi are either pawns of the evil Bush Administration, outright instruments of the Zionist movement, or have no credibility like the sources dddooo quoted, allow me to offer the real (Moonbat) Translation of what bin Laden actually said:

    "I have a dream that all the people of the world will one day live on an earth where they will not be judged by their religion, but how well they treat each other.

    I have a dream that one day every person of this earth - Muslim, Jew, Christian, Buddhist, Taoist, Shintoist, etc. - shall be exalted, every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made straight and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together.

    I have a dream that one day on the plains of Saudi Arabia the sons of Zionists and the sons of Allah will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

    I love Big Macs, internet porn, Weissen beer, Guns N Roses music, and titty bars!

    Sacha Baron Cohen is one funny motherfucker.

    The US has nothing to fear but fear itself.

    The Patriots will be undefeated."
     
    #76     Dec 15, 2007
  7. Hapaboy, to the rescue......reporting from tropical paradise.
    During a whirlwind trip around the globe, many moons ago, i had the respective misfortune to drop in on a rural turkish family.

    Hard working folk, prayed 5 times a day.
    Through an interpreter, i discovered, the young folk were at wits end, dealing with the hyper religious bullshit of their parents, and that the television in the house, was only there at the extreme limits of their benevolence-and that the elders, quite literally, said it was EVIL.
    Un islamic, they said.

    There simply was no question, had i attempted to live there, with any variety of western "morals", i would have my head on the chopping block, in no short order.


    The sheer repression of the society was so extreme, i find it baffling that similiar stories or experiences aren't shared here.
    And thats in turkey......the poster child of "islam can work in a secular society"
    BS.
    Wael?
     
    #77     Dec 15, 2007
  8. do you even know that he was quoting khomeini?
    in the sentence itself he made reference to the imam and you don't need knowledge of the language to see the translation is to 'regime' and 'imam':

    this is the original quote in farsi:

    "imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e quods bayed az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad"

    i don't recall anyone making a fuss at the time the ayatolla uttered them words...
     
    #78     Dec 15, 2007
  9. Where?? In Turkey??? Come on acronym...You were there!!! Now If you wanted seek religious zealots in Turkey, you will find religious zealots. You would also find topless beaches if you seek them.

    Now, so far, I could,with confidence, tell you that Turkey has more violent crimes than crimes cause by religious zealots. You also know that if anyone touched a hair on your head in Turkey; he will end up spending the rest of his life in a Turkish jail. And we all know what a Turkish jail is.

    Having me saying that...I will not be surprised if the situation changes. Bush seems to have a magical wand that does wonders in radicalizing the whole Islamic world. Nuff said!

    By the way...I am no fan of Turkey. Back in my university town I was demonstrating with my Greek Cypriots friends against the, zionist like, Turkish settlers.

    I hate to defend this country and I beg of you not to put me in that awkward position acronym.
     
    #79     Dec 15, 2007
  10. He was not quoting Khomeini, he was agreeing with him -
    "as imam said Israel must be wiped off the map"... Yeah, they don't call it Israel, they call it "Regime", "Zionist entity" etc. Stop splitting hairs and parsing words and face the reality, he threatened to destroy Israel regardless of what Farsi idiom he used to convey his threat. Don't take my word for it though, ask the Iranian opposition Leader, official Iranian news agencies, Al-Jazeera, the EU, the UN - they all agree.
     
    #80     Dec 15, 2007