Florida high school under lockdown after reports of shooter, victims, police say

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, Feb 14, 2018.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    There was never close to 114 million Indians populating the U.S. -- the above article is a complete fantasy.
     
    #271     Feb 18, 2018
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  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    A number so wrong that even the Washington Post is calling bullshiat...

    No, there haven’t been 18 school shootings in 2018. That number is flat wrong.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...b6cf72-1264-11e8-8ea1-c1d91fcec3fe_story.html

    The stunning number swept across the Internet within minutes of the news Wednesday that, yet again, another young man with another semiautomatic rifle had rampaged through a school, this time at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High in South Florida.

    The figure originated with Everytown for Gun Safety, a nonprofit group, co-founded by Michael Bloomberg, that works to prevent gun violence and is most famous for its running tally of school shootings.

    “This,” the organization tweeted at 4:22 p.m. Wednesday, “is the 18th school shooting in the U.S. in 2018.”

    A tweet by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) including the claim had been liked more than 45,000 times by Thursday evening, and one from political analyst Jeff Greenfield had cracked 126,000. New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio tweeted it, too, as did performers Cher and Alexander William and actors Misha Collins and Albert Brooks. News organizations — including MSNBC, ABC News, NBC News, CBS News, Time, MSN, the BBC, the New York Daily News and HuffPost — also used the number in their coverage. By Wednesday night, the top suggested search after typing “18” into Google was “18 school shootings in 2018.”

    It is a horrifying statistic. And it is wrong.

    Everytown has long inflated its total by including incidents of gunfire that are not really school shootings. Take, for example, what it counted as the year’s first: On the afternoon of Jan. 3, a 31-year-old man who had parked outside a Michigan elementary school called police to say he was armed and suicidal. Several hours later, he killed himself. The school, however, had been closed for seven months. There were no teachers. There were no students.

    Also listed on the organization’s site is an incident from Jan. 20, when at 1 a.m. a man was shot at a sorority event on the campus of Wake Forest University. A week later, as a basketball game was being played at a Michigan high school, someone fired several rounds from a gun in the parking lot. No one was injured, and it was past 8 p.m., well after classes had ended for the day, but Everytown still labeled it a school shooting.

    Everytown explains on its website that it defines a school shooting as “any time a firearm discharges a live round inside a school building or on a school campus or grounds.”

    Sarah Tofte, Everytown’s research director, calls the definition “crystal clear,” noting that “every time a gun is discharged on school grounds it shatters the sense of safety” for students, parents and the community.

    She said she and her colleagues work to reiterate those parameters in their public messaging. But the organization’s tweets and Facebook posts seldom include that nuance. Just once in 2018, on Feb. 2, has the organization clearly explained its definition on Twitter. And Everytown rarely pushes its jarring totals on social media immediately after the more questionable shootings, as it does with those that are high-profile and undeniable, such as the Florida massacre or one from last month in Kentucky that left two students dead and at least 18 people injured.

    After The Washington Post published this report, Everytown removed the Jan. 3 suicide outside the closed Michigan school.

    The figures matter because gun-control activists use them as evidence in their fight for bans on assault weapons, stricter background checks and other legislation. Gun rights groups seize on the faults in the data to undermine those arguments and, similarly, present skewed figures of their own.

    (More at above url)
     
    #272     Feb 18, 2018
  3. schweiz

    schweiz

    Read carefully what is written, or try at least. They don't say there where 114 million. They say that there would have been 114 million now if the would have been killed then. But 10 million really killed seems enough for me.
     
    #273     Feb 18, 2018
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Reliable estimates for the total number of Indians in North America are 2.1 million to 7 million people at the time of Columbus -- good luck with your 10 million number.
     
    #274     Feb 18, 2018
  5. Poindexter

    Poindexter

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    #275     Feb 18, 2018
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  6. schweiz

    schweiz

    What is that "reliable" source? That's the NRA version of reality. Each has it's own reality, and that reality has to proof they are right. Whether it is reality or not does not matter. It was not at the time of Columbus, it was centuries later. So that number is completely irrelevant.
    I have a reliable source that says it was 10 million. It was the US Government.
    Oooh, I forgot they are not reliable, that's why you all need a few guns. LOL.
     
    #276     Feb 18, 2018
  7. schweiz

    schweiz

    #277     Feb 18, 2018
  8. jem

    jem

    all you wrote below is a non sequitor. ( besides 100 million Indians killed is absurd.)

    I was not comparing genocides and who was therefore morally superior...
    I was pointing out the flaw in your argument when you acted like the European system was superior because of gun control.

    Eternal Vigilance is the price of liberty.
    The insanity here seems linked to meds.


     
    #278     Feb 18, 2018
  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    That's awfully low. There were 2 million in Aztec empire alone
     
    #279     Feb 18, 2018
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You are correct. I was focused on U.S. and Canada.... not Mexico.

    Remember the assertion in the article is " 114 million Indians as a direct result of US actions". The focus is territory in the U.S., not Mexico. It should also be kept in mind that the U.S. only came into existence in 1776.
     
    #280     Feb 18, 2018