Fixing America's Healthcare System

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Dec 15, 2024.

  1. We were told that Obamacare would fix all those problems.

    I guess not.

    We were told that the Brits and Canada had health insurance/care for everyone, unlike the American neanderthals, except you cannot get actual health care in the year that you need it.
     
    #41     Dec 20, 2024
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  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Who told you that ACA would fix these problems? [CITATION NEEDED]
     
    #42     Dec 20, 2024
  3. Nice try.

    You lefties marketed it day in and day out as solution to America's health insurance and care systems.

    Now you are saying: "who ever said that?"

    Trying to distance yourself from that pig.
     
    #43     Dec 20, 2024
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  4. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Employer provided healthcare is a dumb system. It makes no sense. Why should your health insurance be tied to your employer? If your employer gives crappy insurance you can’t easily buy supplemental insurance.
     
    #44     Dec 20, 2024
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Actually most progressives at the time considered ACA to be a failure of the Obama administration to implement a full public plan -- and many progressives heavily criticized the Obama administration for this failure. ACA was viewed as a give-away to the pharma and healthcare insurance industries.
     
    #45     Dec 20, 2024
  6. Yeh well, as the saying goes: "Success has a hundred fathers, and failure is an orphan."

    Suddenly you are a dem but not a dem who supported the pig called "Obamacare."

    Whatever.
     
    #46     Dec 20, 2024
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You can go back and read what I wrote at that time and since ACA was implemented.

    It is long overdue for the U.S. to implement a public plan like all the other leading western nations. The world has many good examples of countries that can be used as a successful model -- many which include a public plan and voluntary private healthcare overlays.

    The U.S. could have implemented a public plan but the Obama administration did not have the guts to do so.

    The Origins And Demise Of The Public Option
    https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/full/10.1377/hlthaff.2010.0363
     
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    #47     Dec 20, 2024

  8. because your employer can negotiate better rates for large numbers of employees to get high levels of health care and also contributes by paying for more than 50% of the costs...

    your employer does not guve crappy insurance, thats the point.... most employers give amazing insurance. It is the poor, independent contractors, low level employees and unemployed who have shitty health coverage...
     
    #48     Dec 20, 2024
  9. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    it makes no sense that the risk bucket is an employer.

    And large employers don’t necessarily have better insurance. My insurance at the bulge bracket bank wasn’t better than the insurance my company offers now. You are right about small businesses and independent contractors being squeezed by the current set up.
     
    #49     Dec 20, 2024
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #50     Dec 21, 2024