You cannot vote not guilty overall...he killed a guy and admitted it no matter what a person thinks about his reasons. This will not go to trial if he confessed. DAs and lawyers ofteb don't go to trial when a perp confesses to the crime. A deal is being brokered. To avoid people like you who choose to ignore the Constitution and the law or are just ignorant of the law you will not be selected. If this goes to trial it will simply be to determine WHAT murder charge not whether he committed.murder. He planned a murder..that's 1st degree pre meditated murder. He may argue his mental state but he is not getting off from a murder that he confessed. Also there is no self defense here. You cannot stalk a CEO and shoot him in the back and claim you killed in self defense. You can find as much disgust as you want in the Healthcare system or United Health but our justice system does not support vigilantes or people going out to.murder peoole for.claims of bettering society (Bernie geothermal or Unabomber?). There is no Thanos defense. In that case planners of 9/11 should have gotten off because the US was a military threat to them in the Middle East.
So much wrong in your post Sir. 1.I do not believed he admitted it/made a confession to police,even if he did it can always be withdrawn.People withdraw confessions all the time and usually say the confession was made under duress.His current plea is not guilty. 2.A juror does not have to be honest about their feelings during the selection process.Luigi supporters who want to be on the jury will not say they are Luigi supporters.See the John Cusek Gene Hackmen movie Regardless of the evidence shown,a juror can vote how they want Sir.
Runaway Jury was not a documentary, sorry if you did not now. With hollywood as your legal citiation how can you be wrong on a legal issue haha... I forgot that many of my lawyer friends often cite Runaway Jury as a legal precedent in criminal law which has been upheld by the Sate Supreme Court.... Also: In a backpack Mangione had with him, police allegedly found a black 3D printed pistol and a black silencer, which was also 3D printed, that appears to match the weapon used to kill Thompson, according to the criminal complaint. They also discovered a three-page document on Mangione that NYPD Commissioner Jessica Tisch said "speaks to both his motivation and mindset." Among the writings recovered in a spiral notebook were alleged plans concocting how to eventually kill the UnitedHealthcare CEO, according to law enforcement officials. The writings indicate he had been developing a fixation and increasing malice toward the company and allegedly talking about harming its leader for months, according to law enforcement sources. Weapon/ballistics match the one used to kill CEO Description fits the images shown of the person killing CEO Writing of Luigi discusses motiviation for killing CEO Any one item could be attacked as circumstantial but taken together results in more than a reasonable doubt. If it goes to trial obviously he will plead the 5th but his writings will speak for him and the defense cannot refute them because it opens the door up for Luigi to take the stand. Even you admit he did it but you feel he was justified. I bet you support the police when they shoot an unarmed criminal in the back because you can justify it amirite? He is being charged with 2nd degree murder because he is presenting as mentally unstable. Makes it harder to land a charge of first degree murder so they went with 2nd degree. His public defender said he will plead not guilty of course which means DA will take a lot of time to build the case and collect all evidence. Dont cite a bullshit movie for jury nullification, just admit you do not understand the law. This is not OJ with no direct evidence, a murder weapon or statements from the suspect. This is a much stronger case and he is not even denying he did it, just saying he cannot remember. No alibi, caught with a weapon and crazy writings specifically focused on doing something like this and matches the description in the video. Why is this guy a hero to you? Maybe somebody kills you because at your job at McDonalds you are servinvg food that kills people and they are justified to take you out. Citing a movie for a legal argument? Yo do kow the DaVinci Code was not a documentary right?
As expected... yet this MAGA crowd are the loudest voices in demanding an end to Obamacare. "Data shows that of the three million Americans on ACA, 82 percent live in states that voted for Trump over Vice President Kamala Harris in the 2024 election." Most Obamacare Applicants Hail From Trump-Voting States https://www.binnews.com/content/202...licants-hail-from-trump-voting-states-report/
If you hadn't noticed I also cited NBC News/Dan Abrams and Wikipedia.I'll gladly do so again. I cited Runaway Jury because people who saw the movie would quickly understand the point of stealth jurors that I was making without having to look it up.Runaway Jury is a movie,but the subject of the movie,stealth jurors, is very real.Considering polls show around 50% of the country support Luigi to some extent the likelihood of Luigi supporting stealth jurors is above normal,especially considering the trial will be held in a very progressive city that supports a medicare for all type system and despises the health insurance industry That is what is known as evidence Sir,not an admission or confession,which you specifically stated "You cannot vote not guilty overall...he killed a guy and admitted it no matter what a person thinks about his reasons. This will not go to trial if he confessed. DAs and lawyers ofteb don't go to trial when a perp confesses to the crime. A deal is being brokered."-El OchoCinco There is a difference between evidence and an admission or confession Sir.A juror can ignore evidence and focus on what they want to focus on,similar to you ignoring that I also cited NBC News and Wikipedia when referencing stealth jurors to only focus on the movie I cited.A juror can vote how they want,regardless of the evidence No Sir.I am a very strong supporter of police reform and ending qualified immunity. Says the gentlemen who doesn't know the difference between evidence and a confession. I didn't cite the movie for jury nullification Sir,I cited the movie for stealth jurors.For jury jury nullification I cited The Fully Informed Jury Association. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fully_Informed_Jury_Association https://fija.org/library-and-resour...ification-faq/what-is-jury-nullification.html Ad hominems.Tell me you know you are losing the argument without telling me you know you are losing the argument.
Trump states have between 40% and 50% Democrats I dont think they filtered for that Could be more Democrats then Republicans use ACA
I think you just backed out from looking like an ass quoting a movie for your legal argument...claim i am losing all you want but when Runaway Jury is your factual basis for discussion I don't need to attack you...you jumped o that grenade all by yourself. Please.dont quote me 12 Angry Men as a retort...all you have is to tell me if you got on the jury you would vote not guilty no matter the evidence that shows he did it... that makes you a piece of shit no better than the guy you celebrate being murdered. hope you never need the legal system when one of your family is victimized. Though you GOP ill were all about the rule of law.....guess not amirite...
I cited a movie for quick reference of the subject matter.I cited NBC News,Dan Abrams, Wikipedia and The Fully Informed Jury Association for my legal arguments.Due to your previous posting history I understand that you aren't capable of understanding the difference. I'm not a mass murderer that causes pain,suffering,misery ,emotional distress and death to thousands for profit Sir.No amount of money could get me to take a job doing so. GOP ill? I am a Bernie Sanders /Elizabeth Warren progressive Sir.I have never voted for a Republican in my life.
This is one way to state it... and it's spot on. The health insurance industry has attached itself to us like a bloodsucking tick — here's why https://www.alternet.org/alternet-e...-itself-to-us-like-a-giant-bloodsucking-tick/ There’s only one person in this photograph/video of a recent G7 meeting who represents a country where an illness can destroy an entire family, leaving them bankrupt and homeless, with the repercussions of that sudden fall into poverty echoing down through generations. Most Americans have no idea that the United States is quite literally the only country in the developed world that doesn’t define healthcare as an absolute right for all of its citizens. That’s it. We’re the only one left. The United States spends more on “healthcare” than any other country in the world: about 17% of GDP. Switzerland, Germany, France, Sweden and Japan all average around 11%, and Canada, Denmark, Belgium, Austria, Norway, Netherlands, United Kingdom, New Zealand and Australia all come in between 9.3% and 10.5%. Health insurance premiums right now make up about 22% of all taxable payroll, whereas Medicare For All would run an estimated 10%. We are literally the only developed country in the world with an entire multi-billion-dollar for-profit industry devoted to parasitically extracting money from us to then turn over to healthcare providers on our behalf. The for-profit health insurance industry has attached itself to us like a giant, bloodsucking tick. And it’s not like we haven’t tried. Presidents Theodore Roosevelt, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Jack Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson all proposed and made an effort to bring a national healthcare system to the United States. Here’s one example really worth watching where President Kennedy is pushing a single-payer system (as opposed to Britain’s “socialist” model): They all failed, and when I did a deep dive into the topic two years ago for my book The Hidden History of American Healthcare I found two major barriers to our removing that tick from our backs. The early opposition, more than 100 years ago, to a national healthcare system came from southern white congressmen (they were all men) and senators who didn’t want even the possibility that Black people could benefit, health-wise, from white people’s tax dollars. (This thinking apparently still motivates many white Southern politicians.) The leader of that healthcare-opposition movement in the late 19th and early 20th centuries was a German immigrant named Frederick Hoffman, as I mentioned in a recent newsletter. Hoffman was a senior executive for the Prudential Insurance Company, and wrote several books about the racial inferiority of Black people, a topic he traveled the country lecturing about. His most well-known book was titled Race Traits and Tendencies of the American Negro. It became a major best-seller across America when it was first published for the American Economic Association by the Macmillan Company in 1896, the same year the Supreme Court’s Plessy v. Ferguson decision legally turned the entire US into an apartheid state. Hoffman taught that Black people, in the absence of slavery, were so physically and intellectually inferior to whites that if they were simply deprived of healthcare the entire race would die out in a few generations. Denying healthcare to Black people, he said, would solve the “race problem” in America. Southern politicians quoted Hoffman at length, he was invited to speak before Congress, and was hailed as a pioneer in the field of “scientific racism.” Race Traits was one of the most influential books of its era. By the 1920s, the insurance company he was a vice president of was moving from life insurance into the health insurance field, which brought an added incentive to lobby hard against any sort of a national healthcare plan. Which brings us to the second reason America has no national healthcare system: profits. “Dollar” Bill McGuire, a recent CEO of America’s largest health insurer, UnitedHealth, made about $1.5 billion dollars during his time with that company. To avoid prosecution in 2007 he had to cough up $468 million, but still walked away a billionaire. Stephen J Hemsley, his successor, made off with around half a billion. And that’s just one of multiple giant insurance companies feeding at the trough of your healthcare needs. Much of that money, and the pay for the multiple senior executives at that and other insurance companies who make over $1 million a year, came from saying “No!” to people who file claims for payment of their healthcare costs. This became so painful for Cigna Vice President Wendell Potter that he resigned in disgust after a teenager he knew was denied payment for a transplant and died. He then wrote a brilliant book about his experience in the industry: Deadly Spin: An Insurance Company Insider Speaks Out on How Corporate PR Is Killing Health Care and Deceiving Americans. Companies offering such “primary” health insurance simply don’t exist (or are tiny) in almost every other developed country in the world. Mostly, where they do exist, they serve wealthier people looking for “extras” beyond the national system, like luxury hospital suites or air ambulances when overseas. (Switzerland is the outlier with exclusively private insurance, but it’s subsidized, mandatory, and non-profit.) If Americans don’t know this, they intuit it. In the 2020 election there were quite a few issues on statewide ballots around the country. Only three of them outpolled Joe Biden’s win, and expanding Medicaid to cover everybody was at the top of that list. (The other two were raising the minimum wage and legalizing pot.) The last successful effort to provide government funded, single-payer healthcare insurance was when Lyndon Johnson passed Medicare and Medicaid (both single-payer systems) in the 1960s. It was a hell of an effort, but the health insurance industry was then a tiny fraction of its current size. In 1978, when conservatives on the Supreme Court legalized corporations owning politicians with their Buckley v Belotti decision (written by Justice Louis Powell of “Powell Memo” fame), they made the entire process of replacing a profitable industry with government-funded programs like single-payer vastly more difficult, regardless of how much good they may do for the citizens of the nation. The Court then doubled-down on that decision in 2010, when the all-conservative vote on Citizens United cemented the power of billionaires and giant corporations to own politicians and even write and influence legislation and the legislative process. Medicare For All, like Canada has, would save American families thousands every year immediately and do away with the 500,000+ annual bankruptcies in this country that happen only because somebody in the family got sick. But it would kill the billions every week in profits of the half-dozen corporate giants that dominate the health insurance industry. This won’t be happening with a billionaire in the White House, but if we want to bring America into the 21st century with the next administration, we need to begin working, planning, and waking up voters now. It’ll be a big lift: keep it on your radar and pass it along.
Hold on..I have legal precedent from an episode of "How to Get Away With Murder" that should get Luigi off. Shonda Rimes is accepted law in 32 states.