Five Biggest Border Lies Debunked

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Frederick Foresight, Jan 17, 2024.

  1. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Do you think the Democrats and use this to convert republicans to democrats?

    "We tried to solve immigration. The republicans killed it. Vote us and we will fix it."
     
    #51     Feb 7, 2024
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The MAGA "Kill the Immigrants" Convoy crowd is getting nutter by the day.

    Tennessee dad Paul Faye arrested over plot to snipe migrants at the border
    https://nypost.com/2024/02/08/news/paul-faye-arrested-over-plot-to-snipe-migrants-at-border/
     
    #52     Feb 9, 2024
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    War on migrants at Texas border fueled by bigotry, gun fetishes, white powdery substances, and some fine THC cookies.

    Right-Wing Bloggers Busted During Militia Border Tour
    Near Eagle Pass, Texas officers arrested bloggers for drug possession after receiving information that someone in a caravan was pointing a gun at migrants, DPS report says.
    https://www.texasobserver.org/celeste-sparks-pena-ahuyon-bloggers-eagle-pass/

    The Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) recently arrested two right-wing bloggers riding in a caravan near Eagle Pass after finding what law enforcement described as a plastic bag containing a “white powdery substance,” marijuana, and THC edibles in their Mercedes SUV, which also reeked of cannabis, according to a police report obtained by the Texas Observer via a public records request.

    Celeste April Sparks and Jerry J. Pena-Ahuyon, who self-identify as “independent journalists,” told the Observer that they were stopped while giving a tour of the area to members of the United Patriot Party of North Carolina, described by police as a militia group, on January 20. Pena-Ahuyon, who goes by Pena, also had a Smith & Wesson gun, per the report.

    “We kind of led a little convoy. We let them follow us,” Sparks told the Observer by phone.

    Both Sparks and Pena-Ahuyon said that day was their first time meeting with the United Patriot Party of North Carolina. Both said they were unaware that the group was an armed militia and that they are not members.

    At the time of their arrests, they had been traveling with militia members who had allegedly pointed guns at migrants, according to DPS. DPS troopers arrived to investigate reports from a Federal Bureau of Investigation surveillance plane that migrants were possibly being held at gunpoint, per the report.

    Members of the United Patriot Party of North Carolina, who were out patrolling with Sparks and Pena, were not arrested that day, though one man with the group, Jeremy Allred, was stopped and had multiple guns in his possession, according to the DPS report. The report says Allred admitted to police that he “did brandish a rifle in the presence” of migrants.

    According to DPS, Allred has a prior conviction for domestic assault. The report says that DPS officers were told that federal prosecutors “did not want to accept charges on Allred, but later advised they will now accept federal weapons charges on Allred if he is encountered again.”

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    #53     Feb 9, 2024
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #54     Feb 14, 2024
  5. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    I very much doubt it. The large majority have bought into the narrative coming from the House. That it's too lax/weak & GOP pushing to accept the deal are rhinos who want to replace whitey.
     
    #55     Feb 14, 2024
  6. Atlantic

    Atlantic

    #56     Feb 14, 2024
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    GOP Rep. post a picture of Migrants streaming over the border next to a picture of Joe Biden and the caption "I did that". Unfortunately, the picture is from 2018.

    'Nice try': GOP Rep. fact checked after using border picture from when Trump was president
    https://www.rawstory.com/nice-try-gop-trump-border-picture/


     
    #57     Feb 14, 2024
  8. Atlantic

    Atlantic

    biggest crowd ever!
     
    #58     Feb 15, 2024
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    U.S. Judge David Ezra deciding the legality of Texas law (allowing Texas to arrest and deport migrants crossing border) tells Texas there is no "invasion", and that the US government has not "abandoned" its border responsibilities.

    Texas and Biden administration lawyers face off in court over new law making illegal border crossing a state crime
    An Austin judge will decide whether Senate Bill 4 will go into effect on March 5. The new law allows police to arrest people suspected of illegally crossing the border.
    https://www.texastribune.org/2024/02/15/texas-immigration-law-sb4-border-court-hearing/

    Lawyers for the Biden administration and Texas faced off in a federal court in Austin on Thursday to argue whether a new state law that would allow police to arrest people suspected of crossing the Texas-Mexico border illegally should go into effect next month.

    Senate Bill 4, which Gov. Greg Abbott signed in December, is Texas’ latest attempt to try to deter people from crossing the Rio Grande after several years of historic numbers of migrants arriving at the Texas-Mexico border.

    The law makes illegally crossing the border a Class B misdemeanor carrying a punishment of up to six months in jail. Repeat offenders could face a second-degree felony with a punishment of two to 20 years in prison. The law also requires state judges to order migrants returned to Mexico if they are convicted; local law enforcement would be responsible for transporting migrants to the border. A judge could drop the charges if a migrant agrees to return to Mexico voluntarily.

    On Thursday, attorneys representing the U.S. Department of Justice and several nonprofit organizations that have sued the state argued that only the federal government can enforce immigration laws. They said that precedent set by federal courts makes clear that states are prohibited from enacting their own restrictions on entry to and removal from the U.S.

    Brian Boynton, a deputy assistant attorney general arguing on behalf of the DOJ, rejected the notion that there is an “invasion” at the southern border, a refrain Gov. Greg Abbott has repeated to justify his border efforts.

    Boynton also denied that the federal government has “abandoned” its duty to enforce immigration laws.

    “There has been no abandonment,” Boynton said during a roughly hourlong argument in a packed courthouse. He added that the federal government has removed more than 400,000 migrants from the country since May, when the Biden Administration ended Title 42, the Trump-era policy that allowed officials to quickly expel migrants from the country.

    Since March 2021, Abbott has implemented various tactics, including sending state troopers and the National Guard to different parts of the state’s 1,200-mile border with Mexico; arresting migrants and charging them with trespassing; erecting barriers on land and water; and most recently, blocking U.S. Border Patrol agents from entering a city park in Eagle Pass and enclosing the area with concertina wire.

    Meanwhile, the Texas Attorney General’s Office has repeatedly sued the Biden administration over its immigration policies, characterizing them as open border policies. Some of those legal cases have gone to the conservative-majority U.S. Supreme Court, which has ruled in favor of the Biden administration, reaffirming decades-long precedent that the federal government has sole authority over immigration laws.

    Last year, the state Legislature approved SB 4, which put Texas on a legal collision course with the federal government over immigration enforcement.

    In December, the American Civil Liberties Union, the ACLU of Texas and the Texas Civil Rights Project sued Texas on behalf of El Paso County and two immigrant rights organizations — El Paso-based Las Americas Immigrant Advocacy Center and Austin-based American Gateways — over the new state law.

    The following month, the Justice Department filed its own lawsuit against Texas. The lawsuits have since been combined.

    A major point of contention between the opposing parties was whether SB 4 would allow migrants to access the asylum process, which they are entitled to under federal law. Boynton said that if a migrant were arrested under SB 4, they would not have a chance to claim asylum and could be sent back to Mexico, even if that country refused to accept them.

    Lawyers for the state of Texas, however, said the law would not impede the asylum process. Ryan Walters, an attorney representing the state, suggested that migrants prosecuted for illegally crossing the border could apply for asylum from a Texas prison.

    “There have been a lot of assumptions about the law,” Walters said. “Federal law enforcement can still come in and do credible fear interviews. There’s no difference from other cases where migrants are in Texas custody.”

    But U.S. District Judge David Ezra said during the hearing that judges presiding over SB 4 cases will ultimately be forced to decide whether to abide by federal or state law. While SB 4 states that a court “may not abate the prosecution of an offense” on the basis that a federal determination of the immigrant's status is pending, federal law asks that courts do take an immigrant’s asylum application into account.

    Ezra also took issue with the fact that SB 4 would allow state judges to hear felony immigration claims. Typically, federal judges with lifetime tenure, known as Article III judges, have jurisdiction over cases where federal prosecutors seek criminal charges for immigration offenses, such as illegal entry.

    “Someone who faces a possible 20-year sentence won’t have the benefit of an Article III judge,” Ezra said. “That is an issue of some concern.”

    Ezra asked the state’s lawyers considerably more questions than he asked of the DOJ lawyers. He took jabs at state lawmakers, stating that “a little more care should have gone into drafting” SB 4, and at several points he joked that the state’s attorneys were in a difficult position.

    Ezra rebuffed the state's argument that there is an "invasion" at the border.

    "I haven't seen, and the state of Texas can't point me to any type of military invasion in Texas," Ezra said. Abbott has invoked the word "invasion" to describe the influx of migrants at the border because a clause in the U.S. Constitution prohibits states from engaging in war unless invaded.


    "I don't see evidence that Texas is at war," Ezra said.

    At the same time, Ezra said he sympathized with the state’s concerns about the border.

    “This court is not unsympathetic to the concerns raised by Abbott,” said Ezra, noting that he has lived in immigration hot spots such as Phoenix and Tucson as well as on the border in Del Rio. “I’m very familiar with the concerns and to some substantial degree agree with those concerns.”

    Ezra said at the end of the hearing that he would try to make a decision as soon as possible and well ahead of March 5, when SB 4 is scheduled to take effect. He predicted that his decision would be appealed and that the case would ultimately make its way to the U.S. Supreme Court.

    Before the hearing began, immigration rights advocates gathered outside the courthouse to condemn SB 4 and to demand a halt to its implementation. Advocates said the law would not only impact the border but would also endanger people of color throughout the state.

    “SB 4 will turn every police officer in Texas into an ICE agent and every judge into an immigration judge,” said Kristin Etter of Texas Immigration Law Council, a nonprofit that provides legal resources to immigrants and refugees. “SB 4 has statewide implications, turning every immigrant or somebody who looks or sounds like an immigrant into a potential criminal and subject to state deportation.”

    Still, supporters of the new state law believe it is constitutional.

    “We look forward to that fight in court,” state Rep. David Spiller, R-Jacksboro, said last week during a news conference with Abbott and other Republican lawmakers in Eagle Pass that was heavy on criticism of the Biden administration’s border policies. “I know his Department of Justice has filed a suit to contest that. To that I say, ‘Bring it, we're ready for that fight.”

    DOJ says Texas law interferes with federal immigration law
    The DOJ argues that SB 4 interferes with federal law, and even if the Texas law attempts to mirror federal law, it’s still problematic because it doesn’t provide migrants access to the asylum process and could affect diplomatic relations with Mexico — one of the country’s largest trading partners.

    In 1952, Congress approved the Immigration and Nationality Act, which regulates immigration in the country and includes federal statutes that prohibit entering the country illegally.

    “The United States has been enforcing federal crimes of illegal entry and illegal reentry in Texas since they were enacted in 1952,” DOJ lawyers argue in court documents. “Yet Texas has gone at least seven decades without an unconstitutional state counterpart like SB 4.”

    (More at above url)
     
    #59     Feb 16, 2024
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #60     Feb 22, 2024