Finding Work after Quitting Daytrading

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by thesniper, Jan 15, 2014.

  1. I don't understand why you don't explore the RIA route a little bit more ?

    You are experienced, have a finance degree, so are only a few steps away from doing some mean-variance portfolio optimization for clients, and probably have a market view you could roll into client communications, etc.

    It may take a few years to develop a decent business, but why not? It's what you know. And you have some capital to live off of.

    Get the series 65 and maybe enroll in the CFP program and you're ready to go.

    Alternatively, you could just do the CFP and series 65 and find an existing business to work for.
     
    #51     Jan 16, 2014
  2. Bob111

    Bob111

    i'm in same exact shoes as OP. except i'm a bit older and have a bit more money from trading. i've looked into a real estate as a possible source of income and i'm pretty damn handy and can fix practically anything inside a house(plumbing,etc included,except electrical stuff)
    but i can't find any property in our area where return will be >5% after all expenses(and that's assuming 100% occupancy rate)
    it's sounds easy-hey! just buy, rent and collect the income,but reality is a bit different these days
     
    #52     Jan 16, 2014
  3. The same thought crossed my mind. Why not try swing trading?
     
    #53     Jan 16, 2014
  4. toc

    toc

    pal can still be ria without any cfp, just take series 65 and get going even part time.

    :D
     
    #54     Jan 17, 2014
  5. agree. i'm saying it might help attract investors. low cost, pretty high payoff from marketing point of view. Also catches him up on financial planning related knowledge he might be missing.
     
    #55     Jan 17, 2014
  6. the non profit sector is a big employer.

    volunteer in a cause that interests you, and go from there!

    philanthropy is a great sector.
     
    #56     Jan 17, 2014
  7. BS is a staple here. Two staples.

    Based on what the op has himself said, he just doesn't get it.

    He's right about some things, very wrong about others.

    Best of luck in your new endeavors, and don't let them talk you back into the snake pit.
     
    #57     Jan 17, 2014
  8. You did make a good point about opportunities in whatever area you're in and it seems to get harder every year I guess because there is always new competition but you have to be willing to go to where the value is. Build a team; a mortgage guy, lawyer, broker/insurance, and a handyman they will show you all the angles and help you squeeze every penny out of your investment.

    As for Sniper I would say if you like the idea of being a truck driver become a truck driver. With the world becoming more and more technical it kind of sucks for people that have no interest in technical stuff like myself. I just got a 2nd shift job a few months ago at Citi and am kind of shocked that this job even exists because I see how some program can't do the job faster than me. It feels like corporate welfare.
     
    #58     Jan 17, 2014
  9. The highest quality income is from rent/dividends. This type of income is Extremely High Quality because it lasts forever and can be passed down forever & don't have to do any work - its totally passive income that can be earned in perpetuity.

    Income from a real business is also high quality because there is always room for growth by adding more units. A trader that has a RIA or HF business is going to be much better off because then he is running a real business and business income is high quality.

    Income from job OK quality because it is steady and most people do a poor job at work and never get fired. But if you do get laid off when you are older then you have to deal with age discrimination and you may never find work again. Nowadays, in order to get a job you need to already have the job you want.

    Income from trading is just the lowest quality income there is. Its a lot of stress & no consistency. And you're always at risk of having an epic drawdown you may never recover from. There are at least 3 ET posters that have admitted to having epic drawdowns. One had a 7 figure drawdown that he has not recovered from and the other two have had 8 figure drawdowns which I doubt they've recovered from. And trust me when I say there is no one smarter than these three guys on this site. We've also had one of the smartest and greatest traders make a couple posts on this site and he's had a 9 figure drawdown that he will never recover from because he is now in his 70s.
     
    #59     Jan 17, 2014
  10. eurojack

    eurojack

    Are you seriously asking this? You know what failed traders do, don't you? They teach other people how to trade. You've got 10 years of experience and you're looking for a job? GTFO, just start a course/website and start offering seminars/lectures in your area and go from there.
     
    #60     Jan 17, 2014