Find the edge :)

Discussion in 'Options' started by MrMuppet, Jul 2, 2021.

  1. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    You buy the straddle for 4.15

    You buy the 65 call, sell the 65 put for a forward price of 54.95.

    you sell the 55 call 2x at 2.15 for a forward price of 55.15 with the straddle.

    that’s an arb of 20 cents I think.
     
    #11     Jul 3, 2021
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  2. guru

    guru

    #12     Jul 3, 2021
  3. MrMuppet

    MrMuppet

    I think that's most of the puzzle pieces together here, so let's dissect the position:

    1. We buy the 55 straddles for 4.15
    2. We sell the 55 calls for 2.15 -> long 200 55 puts
    3. We buy 400 65 calls for 0.05$
    4. We sell 200 65 puts at 20.10 - > long 200 55/65 straddles at 2.05$ AND we're long 20.000 shares synthetically
    5. We sell 400 calls at 1.05$

    Final position: 200 55/60/65 butterflies

    Price:
    55 strike: buy straddle at 4.15, sell calls at 2.15. Long 55 puts at 2.00.
    65 strike: the combo price is 65 -10.10+0.05 = long 20.000 shares at 54.95$ + long 200 calls at 0.05

    -> Long 55 puts at 2.00 + long stock at 54.95: Long calls at 54.95-55+2.00= 1.95

    60 strike: well...1.05$^^

    So the fly goes for 1.95-2x1.05+0.05= -0.10 meaning we get paid to leg into a butterfly

    We can derive vol from the straddle by using the short cut 0.8*Stock*sigma*sqrt(time to expiry in years): 4.20 (asuming taking offers)=0.8*55(derived from the combo)*sigma*sqrt(0.25).

    Solved for sigma equals 19%

    If you put that number into a n option pricer you get a theo price for the fly of 0.93$ and we got paid 10 cts for it. Our edge is 1.03$
     
    #13     Jul 3, 2021
  4. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    #14     Jul 3, 2021
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  5. MrMuppet

    MrMuppet

    #15     Jul 3, 2021
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  6. MrMuppet

    MrMuppet

    You're right. The arb is for 10cts. The remaining 93cts is asuming that you've sold the fly right away at theo or better.
     
    #16     Jul 3, 2021
  7. MrMuppet

    MrMuppet

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    #17     Jul 3, 2021
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  8. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    you can arb for 20 I think.

    or earn 93 in expected profit.
     
    #18     Jul 3, 2021
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  9. ffs1001

    ffs1001

    A bit of an anti-climax in the end - I was hoping the answer would be something that's actionable, but in the heat of the battle, with prices changing all the time, for a Joe Bloggs retail trader, to be able to calculate the following 6 trades :

    1. Buy 200 55 straddles for $4.15
    2. Sell 200 55 calls at $2.15
    3. Sell 400 60 calls at $1.05
    4. Buy 400 65 calls for $.05
    5. Sell 200 65 puts at $10.10
    6. Sell 3,000 shares of stock for $54.95

    .....just to figure out if there is an edge or not, and how much it is and to use it, is a little impractical.
     
    #19     Jul 3, 2021
  10. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    It took me about 5 minutes staring at my iPhone while working on a puzzle with my 4yo. However a pit trader would see an opportunity in a few seconds. It’s what they train themselves to do: to observe the price and sense where the bid/ask has a kink (defined by a skewed mid price).
     
    #20     Jul 3, 2021