http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8bd_1342993460 Good example of Americans finding protection from government/officials right here, firing bean bags and letting police dogs into a crowd of women and children, thank god for the second amendment providing you guys real protection.
this was my original quote:Quote from zdreg: nobody on this thread has offered any statistics that proves that murders and shootings and the crime rates are lower in states with tough gun control laws. the response to date has been zero. certain posters changed the subject by comparing countries.
I gave you the PRECISE reason why its not lower in most US states. So, what is your point? Because the health care system in none of the US states is reasonable its not worth it to think about a reform to make it more affordable given its an order of magnitude more expensive (but not necessarily better) than in many European countries??? That is your line of argumentation???
Ummm...LOL, what would you expect from ET or any other board that doesn't require a shred of knowledge to get banging on a keyboard .
Canada is a state. It has tougher gun laws. It has much lower rate of shootings and gun-initiated murders.