FINALLY-Ultimatum to Muslims

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by sputdr, Feb 23, 2006.

  1. Hopefully a foreshadowing of things to come.

    PETER Costello last night condemned "mushy multiculturalism" and told Muslims who could not tolerate others to leave Australia.

    The Treasurer said the citizenship pledge of loyalty and respect for law should be a "big flashing warning sign" for those Muslims.

    Mr Costello departed from economic matters to address Muslim protests following the publication of cartoons depicting the prophet Mohammed.

    He said those offended "must recognise this does not justify violence against newspapers, or countries that allow newspapers to publish them".

    His comment reinforced the stand of Prime Minister John Howard, who this week criticised Muslims who were "utterly antagonistic to our society".

    Mr Costello said Australia was a secular nation and law was set by Parliament under the Constitution.

    "There are countries that apply religious or sharia law – Saudi Arabia and Iran come to mind," Mr Costello told the Sydney Institute.

    "If a person wants to live under sharia law these are countries where they might feel at ease. But not Australia."

    Calling for enforcement of the values pledged in the citizenship oath, Mr Costello recalled a ceremony he had attended this year at which people from 36 countries became Australians.

    He said a state MP told the audience citizenship did not mean having to give up culture or language or religion or opinions, or love of their native country.

    "The longer he went on about how important it was not to give up anything to become an Australian the more it seemed to me that, in his view, becoming an Australian didn't seem to mean much at all – other than getting a new passport," he said.

    He called that view "confused, mushy, misguided multiculturalism" which underestimated those taking out citizenship.

    "They are conscious that this is not a trivial event. It is a big decision. Becoming a citizen of another country changes their identity," he said.

    Mr Costello said the citizenship oath tried to capture the essence of what it meant to be an Australian, and the values of loyalty, democratic beliefs, respect for liberties and obeying laws.

    "Before entering a mosque, visitors are asked to take off their shoes. This is a sign of respect. If you have a strong objection to walking around in your socks, don't enter the mosque.

    "Before becoming an Australian you will be asked to subscribe to certain values. If you have strong objections to those values, don't come to Australia."

    Mr Costello said hardline Muslims born here represented "citizens who are apparently so alienated that they do not support what their own country stands for".
     
  2. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Wish we had politicians in the US with this kind of backbone.
     
  3. Agreed.
     
  4. "Islam is a faith that brings comfort to people. It inspires them to lead lives based on honesty, and justice, and compassion."
    Remarks by President George W. Bush on U.S. Humanitarian Aid to Afghanistan
    Presidential Hall, Dwight David Eisenhower Executive Office Building, Washington, D.C.
    October 11, 2002

    Bush hails Islam as a religion of charity, compassion, peace
    Regional-USA, Religion, 11/9/2002

    US President, George Bush, has hailed Islam as a religion of charity, compassion, and peace that "Ebrings, he said, hope and comfort to more than a billion people around the world."
     
  5. BSAM

    BSAM

    If taxes weren't so high there, I'd probably move.
     
  6. dis

    dis

    It is hard to disagree, except that the citizenship pledge of loyalty would not work with the Muslims who are allowed to lie to non-Muslims to achieve their nefarious goals. Recall that islamic fundamendalists who perpetrated 9/11 dressed and behaved as secular Muslims.

    There is a law prohibiting nazis and commies from immigrating to the U.S. The law should be amended to cover koranimals who, after all, are every bit as evil as the other two creeds.
     
  7. FredBloggs

    FredBloggs Guest

    youre not alone. the uk needs this just as much.

    it was blair and his screwed up pc crowd that got the uk into the mess to start with - insisting we are all the same and we shouldnt go about our day to day lives in case we offend some jerk whos only here to get welfare money and our free health service. fuck 'em. fuck 'em hard up the ass, then pur em on a boat - and torpedo the boat.

    im not against genuine asylum seekers who have been oppressed, but letting in any tom dick and harry is wrong.

    speaking of asylum seekers - any of you yanks planing on boating it over to the uk? you have the perfect excuse - you live under an evil dictator (bush) who the un knows tortures innocent people (Guantanamo). all you have to do is go on an anti war demo, get beaten up by a pig and then prove you are on the cia's list (your phone was tapped - remember?) :D

    easy life.



    USA! USA!! USA!!!
     
  8. Fred, do you have a bomb shelter in your backyard filled with a cache of weapons, canned food and survival manuals?

    Just curious.




     
  9. "youre not alone. the uk needs this just as much.

    it was blair and his screwed up pc crowd that got the uk into the mess to start with - insisting we are all the same and we shouldnt go about our day to day lives in case we offend some jerk whos only here to get welfare money and our free health service. fuck 'em. fuck 'em hard up the ass, then pur em on a boat - and torpedo the boat.

    im not against genuine asylum seekers who have been oppressed, but letting in any tom dick and harry is wrong.

    speaking of asylum seekers - any of you yanks planing on boating it over to the uk? you have the perfect excuse - you live under an evil dictator (bush) who the un knows tortures innocent people (Guantanamo). all you have to do is go on an anti war demo, get beaten up by a pig and then prove you are on the cia's list (your phone was tapped - remember?)

    easy life."

    first you want to torpedo the boat and kill them and yet you bash us if we torture them a little bit. brilliant.
     
  10. FredBloggs

    FredBloggs Guest


    you forget something - these folk who i plan to torpedo have INVADED the uk on mass and taken liberties. they have committed CRIMES against FREDS LAW.

    the yanks however are torturing people after taking them from their own country like pakistan that arent even on the axis of evil. they just happened to be minding their own business in their own country where they belong.

    big difference.


    USA! USA! USA!
     
    #10     Feb 23, 2006