ALEXANDRIA, Va. - In the final minutes of doomed United Air Lines Flight 93, on Sept. 11, 2001, hijackers try to shake off passengers clamoring for control of the plane over Pennsylvania. Amid groans and sounds of a struggle, a voice says, ``I am injured.'' A hijacker asks, ``Shall we finish it off?'' Moments later, the plane hurtles out of control to the ground, according to a cockpit voice recording played for a jury on Wednesday by federal prosecutors seeking the execution of Zacarias Moussaoui. Culminating their case, the prosecutors figuratively placed the jury aboard the flight for its last heart-wrenching moments, using a computerized simulation of the plane's flight path based on information from the flight data recorder. Hamilton Peterson, whose parents were on Flight 93, earlier heard an enhanced audio version that was played for family members only. He believes the recording provides evidence that passengers attacked and killed a hijacker guarding the cockpit door. The audio played in the courtroom made it impossible to confirm that interpretation. The Sept. 11 Commission concluded there was a struggle for control but reached no conclusion about whether passengers killed a hijacker. Much of the what was heard was open to interpretation. In the last minute, voices could be heard in English saying ``push up'' and ``pull down,'' as flight data showed the steering yoke moving wildly. Some interpreted that as a struggle for control in the cockpit between passengers and hijackers. The hijackers for more than four minutes before that been swinging the plane wildly in an effort to throw the rebelling passengers off balance. At 10 a.m. a hijacker asks in Arabic ``Shall we finish it off?'' The response come back: ``No, not yet.'' Then a voice is heard in English: ``In the cockpit! If we don't, we die!'' At 10:01 a.m., a hijacker asks again: ``Shall we put it down? The response: ``Yes, put it down.'' At 10:02 a.m., a hijacker says, ``Give it to me. Give it to me.'' At 10:03 a.m., the recording ends, and the simulation shows the plane flying nose down, then rolling over belly up and hitting the ground nose first. The government later Wednesday rested its case after the judge rejected prosecutors' request to display a running presentation of the names and photos of all of the nearly 3,000 victims of Sept. 11. Prosecutors were instead allowed to show one large poster with the pictures of all but 92 of the victims, and three victim-impact witnesses gave testimony following the playing of the Flight 93 tape.
Are you kidding? Virtual jury? Voices? Yeah right. The govt only released SOME of the voice recordings to SOME of the relatives BEHIND closed doors. And they relatives were not supposed toitalk about it in public, the press. Et all I like the one âIf we donât, we dieâ. Funny that in your post none mentions the word hijackers either. The label hijacker was slapped on afterwards. Good for running up the emotions dial. Do give as a link though. Ok back to the facts.
How dare I post something from the oh so radically conservative Associated Press. http://channels.isp.netscape.com/news/story.jsp?idq=/ff/story/0001/20060412/1245776594.htm&floc= OK. Now back to your "facts".
Form Nila Sagadevan is an aeronautical engineer and a pilot. âRegarding your comments on flight simulators, several of my colleagues and I have tried to simulate the âhijackerâsâ final approach maneuvers into the towers on our company 767 simulator. We tried repeated tight, steeply banked 180 turns at 500 mph followed by a fast rollout and lineup with a tall building. More than two-thirds of those who attempted the maneuver failed to make a âhitâ. How these rookies who couldnât fly a trainer pulled this off is beyond comprehension.â NB: I continue to use âallegedâ when referring to the hijackers because there is not a shred of evidence that there was a single Arab on any of the four flights. Consider: 1.There is no documented record of the purported 9-11 terrorists making plane reservations. If they did, there would be a ârecord locator,â complete with details. 2. There is no documented record of the purported 9-11 terrorists buying or using tickets. (IDs required) 3. There is no hard-copy of a single printed ticket âcopy.â 4. There is no record of the purported 9-11 terrorists on any of the passenger manifests, with all legitimate passengers being accounted for. 5. There is no record of the purported 9-11 terrorists in the autopsies. 6. There is not so much as a suggestion that the purported 9-11 terrorists had the requisite piloting skillsârather, the contrary. 7. There is no documentation (per the FBI [Mueller]) to link the purported 9-11 terrorists to the events of the day. 8. At least seven of the purported 9-11 terrorists are known to still be alive in the Middle Eastâwith no questions being asked (See links below). http://www.physics911.net/sagadevan.htm
You're right. physics911.net has been a trustworthy news source for I don't know how many years now. I should have known better than to post something from the radical right wing website known as Associated Press. Forgive me?
Virtual Jury lol. Ahhh yes. Like the Voices in Collin Powell's testimony. all made up for the audience? Sure. Thank you. While you are at it, ask for the releases the 85 raw unedited tapes covering the Pentagon hit, ask them to explain my simple questions I asked before, http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1026640#post1026640 Ask them to release all the firemen interviews and all their comments, ask them to disclose fully what's on the black boxes. What's to hide, if it really supports without a doubt the "official mantra"??? You and nobody else can deny the facts at the bottom of that link. http://www.physics911.net/sagadevan.htm btw how did you read it so fast? did you actually read it before you even form an opinion? Trying to trash the link does nothing for your credibility does nothing to support the "official mantra"
exactly... All I want in answers and facts declassified if there is nothing to hide... what is so "wrong" or "crazy" with that? How is asking for documentation to be seen being "a conspiracy nut"??? Am I a 2 year old that should believe everything that is told to me even without facts?
Let me guess... the voice recordings are fake, right? The Associated Press is lying to us, right? Or wait... let me see here... the CIA and super secret societies (masterminded by the Bush family) concocted the whole thing. I guess AP is just another New York Times, making stuff up and letting it go as long as it can before they get caught.
jzlucas, Why would YOU (under the distress of being hijacked) identify yourself to your mother with your first and sir name? Try it - Mumble it to yourself as if... Hi mom, this is Bill Clinton calling.... Just deal with the unanswered questions - -not the improbability of it all - as there is solid science (and respected people in their fields) supporting otherwise.