Filing tax return as Trader Status and Mark to Market Election

Discussion in 'Taxes and Accounting' started by Bolimomo, Apr 6, 2009.

  1. How do you find the information of what you can write off? I've spoke with my current CPA and they are unfamiliar of which write offs pertain to the trader tax.. That is why I'm debating to payup to this cpa b/c he's known for it, but a bit expensive..

    By the way this cpa charges 150 per half hour.. Apologize for the many questions....
     
    #101     Aug 13, 2010
  2. Bob111

    Bob111

    that's why i'm having a problems with those CPA's..they don't know shit..yet demanding ridiculous amount of money for their services.
    imo-the only way to solve this-is educate yourself as much as possible, to properly record everything and do as much as possible yourself.

    http://www.traderstatus.com/whyanentity.htm
     
    #102     Aug 13, 2010
  3. Surdo

    Surdo

    Once you are set up, use Turbo Tax or similar software, as long as you don't write off too much of the wrong deductions you are fine. You can always "Consult" with a CPA for $100, and file yourself. The key is finding the right CPA, most are clueless, agreed.
     
    #103     Aug 13, 2010
  4. moezik

    moezik

    This thread has been a great help, thank you for all of CPAs that contributed to this discussion.

    Question:
    1. I start day trading futures in Aug '10 and would like to post my expenses & profit in Schedule C & D, not electing MTM or creating an entity.
    Would the active trader rule of min 1000 round turns still apply if the day trading activity only occurs in 5 out of 12 months in that year?

    2. Is there any reference on what would qualify as valid expenses for active trader status? I've spent about $6000 in education, seminars this year and would like to list them in Schedule C. Is there a max $ that might post a red flag?

    Thanks in advance.
     
    #104     Aug 22, 2010
  5. there is no such rule.
     
    #105     Aug 22, 2010
  6. to those that reach trader status year to year...

    since they question how many trades a day you make in order to qaulify ..

    as an example, does it matter if i buy and sell a 100 lot once a day or
    putting in 20 orders of 5 lots to reach what the ideal amount of trading should be done?
     
    #106     Aug 23, 2010
  7. may916us

    may916us


    In this case, Can I write off only $10,000 loss against $40,000 gain in 2009, and carry over $40,000 loss to offset in the future years?
    I know this is a basic business tax accounting question, but I have never done this before as I was always a regular employee. I'll appreciate the help. I live in a small town and I can't get a local CPA to answer this question.(The CPA is not familiar with day trading stuff)
     
    #107     Oct 17, 2010
  8. ak15

    ak15

    No, you can't. You'll have to offset the entire 50,000 NOL for 2008 against the NOG of 40,000 in 2009 and can only carry forward the excess of $10,000 to the next year. You can't offset the NOL piecemeal as you suggested for the simple reason that neither you nor the IRS know in advance what your NOLs and NOGs are going to be for future years.
     
    #108     Oct 17, 2010
  9. Without electing trader status, a person can still deduct his losses without the $3k limit versus future trading gains (as the $3k only applies to personal income).

    Does this mean versus ANY future trading gains? Or only versus future trading gains on the same security where the loss occurred?
     
    #109     Dec 21, 2010
  10. any
     
    #110     Dec 21, 2010