FIDC $100k Cover at the bank

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Digs, Nov 29, 2007.

  1. Unless you (or your broker) take delivery of the actual stock certificates, they are held "In street name". You are supposed to be listed as beneficial owner.
     
    #11     Nov 30, 2007
  2. nonam

    nonam

    Unless you (or your broker) take delivery of the actual stock certificates, they are held "In street name". You are supposed to be listed as beneficial owner.


    I dont see what this has to do with it.
    I guess no one knows the answer.
    I suspect that if the broker or clearing firm goes bust they do in fact use customers assets to pay off the "big boy" creditors and the customers get the chump change.
     
    #12     Nov 30, 2007
  3. OK here's the way it works:

    Margin debt has nothing to do with SIPC...Margin should never get negative but if it did and neither the introducing firm nor the clearing firm could cover it then...SIPC starts taking bids.

    Any debt held by Penson is part of their Net Cap computation...regardless as to whether its related to brokerage accounts or not...IE: Say a disgruntled firm sues them in arbitration for 50 million and WINS...that 50 million goes immediately against their net cap....if they only have say 40 Million in net cap? they are under by 10 million and SIpc steps in and starts taking bids...NOW....your account will be restricted from buying new position but a trustee will administer sell orders while they determine who gets the accounts...your Stock is held at DTC not penson...Your $$ is held by a bank and DTC handles the reserving for credit and debit balances.
     
    #13     Nov 30, 2007

  4. absolutely not...in fact, Clearing firms must " RESERVE" for client funds in a EBOC account which stands for Exclusive benefit of Customers" with DTC. they CANNOT use customer funds to pay of any debt. period.
     
    #14     Nov 30, 2007
  5. Bob111

    Bob111

    ok,SIPC suck, i got that, but what about FDIC? if your bank goes down, are going to get your money back? how much? dollar to dollar? how quick? what about money on bank's money market or CD's?

    Thank you!
     
    #15     Nov 30, 2007
  6. yes you will get your money back...the us gov't would never allow another run on banks like the one in the great depression...just like they bailed out the Savings and loans.
     
    #16     Nov 30, 2007
  7. Bob, unfortunately for me, I just went through a situation where my credit union went into insolvency ( they didn't let me know until a year after the fact :mad: ). During this time NCUA ( FDIC sister ) was looking for another credit union to take over the remaining assets and they found one, thanks goodness. I ended up keeping all my funds and the experience rings similar with what TM said would happen in the FDIC situation. I ended up becoming a default member of the new credit union.

    It is also similar to customers of REFCO, who had segregated futures accounts that became customers of MAN now MF Global.
     
    #17     Nov 30, 2007
  8. every now and then i have moments of temporary intelligence...its just about lapsed now.:D
     
    #18     Nov 30, 2007