Fibonacci works due to self fufilling prophecy or becuz 618 is embeded in humans?

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by iamnewuser911, Jul 5, 2017.

  1. peter2h

    peter2h

    Hi Sprout,
    I'm not interested much in the theory behind Fibonacci, or Mandelbrot. And everyone probably has a favorite tool about which they have learned all the ins and outs. It's not necessarily that I'm anti-intellectual, only that I found that the Fibonacci products are the best for me. I'll display a chart along with what I was doing.[ATT 2018-12-20-TOS_CHARTS.png ACH=full]196283[/ATTACH] View attachment 196283 View attachment 196283 View attachment 196283 View attachment 196283 View attachment 196283
    It takes a lot of trust, or courage, to consider buying when prices are falling. But if you trust the fibs, and know how to use them, one can get past those problems.

    On this day, just about a week ago, the market opened a tiny bit down from the previous day. The trader has to expect a small move down then up. The thing is that each time the bar is formed it seems to have stopped--or closed--right upon one of the fib lines. We can be encouraged by the Stochastic that prices are high in their range and more likely to come than go down. Nor in the following decline does a bar (5 min.) not at least tip its hat to each fib line that it goes though. I see the overnight low (red line)coming and wonder if it will stop there as it very often does, but I see that it's aiming for the pivot (green dots), another important number. And I see too that the 127% is right there at the pivot. There are always counter trend orders around the pivot. A bounce is due from those two: the pivot and the 127% fibonacci level. It's hard to believe until you see prices stop at it and decide to go the other way. Well you can see that I look for possibilities at or around the fib levels, with confirmation from the Stochastic being wise.
     
    #111     Dec 29, 2018
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  2. Overnight

    Overnight

    So what does all your analysis say your next definitive trade should be, using the fib and stochastic?
     
    #112     Dec 29, 2018
  3. If it "works," does it matter why?
     
    #113     Dec 29, 2018
  4. peter2h

    peter2h

    I don't pay as much attention to the future as a swing trader would so this chart is just a theoretical endeavor. If I were a swing trader I think I would use something like this which gives some idea of what might happen. It depends on the confluence of the two major variables: the fibs and the stochastic.
     
    #114     Dec 29, 2018
  5. Overnight

    Overnight

    You didn't answer my question. Using your analysis, what would your next entry be? Doesn't matter if you are position, swing, day or scalper. What does that chart show you that your next entry will be?

    They are best for you in what way? To make a trading decision?
     
    #115     Dec 29, 2018
  6. peter2h

    peter2h

    Do you actually think that there is a trading setup on that chart? I believe that trading involves a lot of waiting, whether it's daily or one minute chart. This is a waiting chart.
     
    #116     Dec 29, 2018
  7. peter2h

    peter2h

    what else?
     
    #117     Dec 29, 2018
  8. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Fib prices, without fib times, are only half (actually less than half) of the story
     
    #118     Dec 30, 2018
  9. Overnight

    Overnight

    So you still cannot answer the question...What does your analysis show the next entry should be?
     
    #119     Dec 30, 2018
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  10. Sprout

    Sprout

    How does the relationship work?
     
    #120     Dec 31, 2018
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