fib. expansion and retrace in forex

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  1. A,

    you got caught in continuing hidden divergence which i have not covered in the thread.

    here is an indi. to help you find it .

    this will help you on diverge.....

    http://www.babypips.com/school/9-rules-for-trading-divergences.html

    trading with the trend is far easier......

    countertrend has hidden diverge and you need to know how to spot it.


    s
     
    #321     Dec 15, 2011
  2. athan00

    athan00

    S,
    after some studying I ve done I ve found out that everything has to do with the money line and the trend. At least this is what I can find in most of your charts.

    So what I concluded so far is that you mostly trade DB below money line (on a downtrend) and DT above money line (on an uptrend) .
    As an exception to that is the roll n puke pattern.

    What is not so clear to me is what happens when money line crosses a DT/DB. Sometimes money line works at support/resistance or range (when price is there) but not always.

    What is clear to me is that soon or later price will return to money line. That is why you need to be careful with timing on when to enter a trade since you may first hit SL and after that price return to ML.

    About SL i think that i need at least 2 range bars SL below the end of the fib (0.0 or 100.0 depends on the MT4 settings).

    Of course everything I ve said above could be totally wrong. I m still backtesting. I hope I m in the correct path.

    Thanks

    Athan
     
    #322     Dec 15, 2011
  3. athan00

    athan00

    this post is on page 35. was that a divergence? if so i really can't spot it since both price and macd bars are clearly trending down.

    I attach the chart.
     
    #323     Dec 15, 2011
  4. A,

    it is a one legger shop classic.

    a .86 fib retrace (.14) on the second leg

    histo bars are lower on the second leg up

    even it it dt'd the histo is diverged.

    ...................................................

    markets do not always dt or db.........one leggers are in this thread

    all pairs do this..........a .86 fib retrace is classic.

    this chart has a double fib on it ........why..........:)

    s
     
    #324     Dec 15, 2011
  5. A,

    the left side is a one legger........to the 729

    then it retraces back to where.......?

    .86 on the first move with a db diverged, then back to the moneyline.

    hits the wall dt
    db bottom
    a hidden " upchuck " setup........:)

    dt first db next trade to the north side.......

    cross the money
    retest it

    fib out the upchuck box

    back to the 2.0 fib and a retest of the high .

    learn to read the market and become a student of the game to get to this level.

    cheers,

    s
     
    #325     Dec 15, 2011
  6. athan00

    athan00

    S,
    thanks so much for your posts and your time. There are so useful and enlightening.

    Sorry for my previous question and chart on divergence! Its too late and i m tired. I spent most of my day studying you charts and divergence and backtesting. So that was a really silly question to ask!

    Your last post was really really really great. Helps a lot. Why do you describe the Pivot as 729?

    I hope tomorrow to get some better results concerning "reading the market".
     
    #326     Dec 15, 2011
  7. the daily pivot is the blue line above the 729.

    u can bet the farm if the 729 is close to it they will hit both




    s
     
    #327     Dec 15, 2011
  8. athan00

    athan00

    well the answer is on your 1st post and actually is almost on all of your charts. In some charts you only draw directly the 2nd fib (retrace fib).

    "fib expansion is very powerful when drawn from a .86 retrace or a full DT or DB that has diverged on the second leg setup."
     
    #328     Dec 16, 2011
  9. athan00

    athan00

    ok here today trades i took.

    first trade
    ------------
    trend is up.
    price crossed money line and rebounced there.
    that was a .86 fib lvl

    indis are showing bull hidden DB divergence (at least according to what i ve read).

    I went long but price didnt go further than 138.2
    it keeps coming back to money line and finding support.
    drops back at .86.

    so i m not sure if i should ve took this trade.

    I really don't like to be totally uncertain for the result of a trade.
    I m saying this because while i still waiting for this trade i took the following 2nd trade.


    second trade
    ----------------
    DT divergence.
    got in and out on the yellow arrows.

    2nd leg crossed zero line on the top so i went short there.

    took all the pips down to the purple ema.

    should i ve waited longer to enter?
    should i ve exited earlier at 162 or 200 for safety?
    i was just lucky and nothing else?


    i made few $ but i m really confused...

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    #329     Dec 16, 2011
  10. athan00

    athan00

    ok here is first trade

    I repost the trades for better quality.
     
    #330     Dec 16, 2011
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