FFASTFILL Lower than IB??

Discussion in 'Interactive Brokers' started by bundtrader2, Nov 27, 2002.

  1. mar1991

    mar1991

    i wasnt quoting you - i was answering giving you a very experienced answer to your question - if you couldn't figure that out ... i have no other response
     
    #61     Dec 17, 2002
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    #62     Dec 18, 2002
  3. Puffy,
    Good point and EVERY TIME. Blimey, he must have a special line into the fed to even react that quickly. AFAIK, Bloomberg doesn't break time & sales down into seconds making the claim even more suspect.
     
    #63     Dec 18, 2002
  4. he seems to specifically refer to NQ in the post ....
     
    #64     Dec 18, 2002
  5. Aaron

    Aaron

    I don't think you are understanding order execution correctly... If LarryBF is putting in a market order as soon as the news item comes out, he will be immediately executed at the best possible price. Market orders are immediately executed -- no queue.

    For limit orders, you will be put into the queue with everyone else with the same limit price. If you and I both put in an order to sell at the same price, then, if someone buys at that price, our orders will be filled in the order in which they were submitted.

    So if there are contracts offered at every price and a big news item comes out, then the price is going to shoot up (say) and all those resting limit orders to sell above the market are going to get taken out on the way up as many traders enter market orders to buy as fast as they can. The first market order to reach the market will get the lowest price. Succeeding market orders will get increasingly higher (and less profitable) prices. That's why speed is of the essence for this type of trading.
     
    #65     Dec 18, 2002
  6. Aaron has described execution very well. If a person is first, he is hitting the queue not joining it. I am really surprised that this is confusing to you.

    Also, Time and sales is readily available and useful!

    Nothing dubious there!
     
    #66     Dec 18, 2002
  7. pjs

    pjs

    i use ffastfill. anybody who does high volume should. i saved over $5000 last month versus ib. not only that but i know someone on a first name basis when i need some sort of help.
     
    #67     Dec 18, 2002
  8. Minime

    Minime

    Larry, you're the man!
     
    #68     Dec 18, 2002
  9. Quah

    Quah

    How can "market" orders be executed on GLOBEX when they don't even accept market orders?

    Limit orders are limit orders. The only difference being talked about here is if they happen to hit the bid or the ask.
     
    #69     Dec 18, 2002
  10. A Market order on the CME is when a trader sells at a Limit well below the last traded price and actually gets a fill at the curent bid.

    Traders in my room set up multiple trade tickets when News is about to come out. The will have a ticket set up to sell 5 handles below and another to Buy 5 handles above. If the Announcement is Bullish, then they immediately hit the Buy Ticket and vice versa. This replicates a Market order, but has to placed as a limit.

    Our system enables this. I am sure that TT, IB and others do as well. It is essential, when trading Big Numbers like Employement, CPI and PPI etc etc.


    I hope that this explains what these guys mean. Today on an announcement: I was told by the guys in my Room that they Bought the absolute first 5 prints after the number. This is how my system is evaluated. Tomorrow, the traders may miss somehting and they will be all over me.

    Nobody wins all the time, but I can show how fast we are and prove it with Audit Logs and Time and Sales.

    Fun Stuff! Guys have a Great Christmas! I truly appreciate the nice comments from our clients!
     
    #70     Dec 18, 2002