Fewer People Identify As Republicans Than Ever Before In Post Poll

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Free Thinker, Oct 20, 2009.

  1. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    Mea culpa, you probably will. But I'm trying to clean up my act. Just attacking the source gets nowhere in getting at the truth.

    So I guess my lesson is: deal first with the message, then deal with the messenger if he's shown to be generally unreliable. I seriously doubt that you can show Huffingtonpost is unreliable in most of their articles.
     
    #11     Oct 20, 2009
  2. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    What "liberals" did Bush put on the Supreme Court?

    Haven't you been paying attention? A lot of people on your side are certain the GOP is going to sweep 2010 just because Fox News viewership is up. And that's just the righties here in ET. :p
     
    #12     Oct 20, 2009
  3. The October Rasmussen Trust numbers. (Ten for ten)
    Tuesday, October 20th at 12:13PM EDT

    "Rasmussen hasn’t written the article yet - but they put the new numbers on their BY THE NUMBERS page. And it’s not pretty for Democrats:

    October 2009
    • Issue Dem GOP Diff
      Health Care 40% 46% (6)
      Education 38% 43% (5)
      Social Security 37% 45% (8)
      Abortion 35% 47% (12)
      Economy 35% 49% (14)
      Taxes 35% 50% (15)
      Iraq 31% 50% (19)
      Nat’l Security 31% 54% (23)
      Gov’t Ethics 29% 33% (4)
      Immigration 33% 40% (7)

    September 2009
    • Issue Dem GOP Diff Shift
      Health Care 44% 44% - (6)
      Education 45% 40% 5 (10)
      Social Security 43% 41% 2 (10)
      Abortion 37% 44% (7) (5)
      Economy 39% 47% (8) (6)
      Taxes 40% 48% (8) (7)
      Iraq 37% 47% (10) (9)
      Nat’l Security 39% 51% (12) (11)
      Gov’t Ethics 34% 35% (1) (3)
      Immigration 33% 45% (12) 5

    Note the dives on… everything, really, except immigration issues: the GOP increased its lead in 9 out of 10 categories since last month. But particularly note the Health Care, Social Security, Economy, and Taxes numbers. Does the Democratic Party feel like demonizing their opponents on health care rationing some more? - because I think that the GOP can somehow manage to find the strength to keep bearing up under the Democrats’ scorn."
     
    #13     Oct 20, 2009
  4. Is the WaPo Stuffing Its Own Ballot Box for the 'Public Option'?
    By Tim Graham
    October 21, 2009 - 07:51 ET

    The Washington Post touted a new poll on Tuesday that popular support is increasing for a government-run "public option" health care system – just as liberal Democrats try to push that into the Senate Finance Committee bill. The headline was "Public option gains support: Clear majority now backs plan." So it’s not surprising, as Ed Morrissey found at Hot Air, that the Post is stuffing its poll sample with a few extra Democrats:

    • The sampling comprises 33% Democrats, as opposed to only 20% Republicans. That thirteen-point spread is two points larger than their September polling, at 32%/21%. More tellingly, it’s significantly larger than their Election Day sample, which included 35% Democrats to 26% Republicans for a gap of nine points, about a third smaller than the gap in this poll. Of course, that’s when they were more concerned about accuracy over political points of view.

    The Post’s poll (illustrated by a chart) found respondents favored a public option "to compete with" private insurance by a margin of 57 to 40 percent. But even with the polling sample tilted toward the Democrats, some less favorable findings weren’t in the headline, as Dan Balz and Jon Cohen reported:

    • Overall, 45 percent of Americans favor the broad outlines of the proposals now moving in Congress, while 48 percent are opposed, about the same division that existed in August, at the height of angry town hall meetings over health-care reform.

    Not only that, but what if the public favors liberal reform, but not the means to finance it?

    • But if there is clear majority support for the public option and the mandate [to buy private insurance], there is broad opposition to one of the major mechanisms proposed to pay for the bill. The Senate Finance Committee suggested taxing the most costly private insurance plans to help offset the costs of extending coverage to millions more people. Sixty-one percent oppose the idea, while 35 percent favor it.

    The Post suggested their sample size, with 20 percent of Republicans, is merely a sign of GOP weakness. Morrissey dissented:

    • Remember when I wrote that poll watchers need to remember the recent Gallup poll on party affiliation? Gallup polled 5,000 adults and found that the gap between Democrats and Republicans had closed to the smallest margin since 2005, six points, and had been reduced more than half since the beginning of the year. [That included leaners toward either party.] For the WaPo/ABC poll, though, their sample gap has increased almost 50% during that time.
     
    #14     Oct 21, 2009