How does your common sense gun plan deal with the smuggling of guns from Mexico? Or do you plan on ignoring that aspect? I acknowledged that guns come from red states.You keep avoiding the new channels that they will arrive from. The same channels that are utilized currently for human trafficking and drugs. The criminals will find new sources. Please, don't tell me you are that stupid.
Did you mean to write smuggling guns FROM Mexico? Im not sure that is what you actually mean, not smuggling guns INTO Mexico???
I know you want to be cute. Yes, guns are currently smuggled in from the USA into Mexico. Mexico has some of the most restrictive gun laws around https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Mexico And yet, magically, guns make their way into Mexico even with Mexico's restrictive laws. When the value goes up due to scarcity in America, those smugglers will be happy to reverse their supply stream and sell the guns back in the USA. When those run out, new suppliers will be found abroad just as new suppliers were found for other contraband.
Your plan also ignores there very real possibility that poor people will chose to take up illegal gunsmithing as has happened in the Philippines. If people are desperate enough to sell drugs, then why not guns? The gunmakers of the Philippines By Kate McGeown BBC News, Cebu, Philippines Published 20 March 2013 media captionWatch: Gunmaking in the Philippines is proving a lucrative business, both legal and illegal, reports Kate McGeown from Cebu A shot rings out from a factory on the outskirts of the Philippines' second-biggest city, Cebu. But this isn't an all-too-frequent drive-by killing or an argument that has become violent. The sound is from a testing range at Shooters Arms, the country's second-largest gun factory. Shooters Arms produces about 20,000 pistols and shotguns every year, 85% of which are sold abroad - mainly to the US, Canada, Italy and Thailand. Operations manager Romel de Leon has big plans - he wants to expand into new markets in Eastern Europe and even South America. His business has a lot of competitive advantages. He has low labour costs and a highly skilled workforce using a mix of specialised machines and painstaking manual precision to produce high-quality weapons. He also has a lucrative local market. Filipinos love their guns - even the president is an enthusiast - and the national police say there are 1.2 million registered firearms in the country. 'Proper livelihood' But Mr De Leon's factory has another positive factor going for it. In the controversial business of gun manufacturing, he can legitimately claim to be making the world safer rather than more dangerous. image captionRomel de Leon hired many people from Danao to set up the second-largest gun factory in The Philippines Many of the people he employs are from the nearby city of Danao, which is well-known for its gunmaking skills, especially since World War II, when the people of Danao made guns for the resistance effort against the Japanese. Part of the reason Mr De Leon set up his business near Danao was to tap the potential of these gunsmiths, who had been illegally making unregistered and unregulated firearms inside their homes for decades. "When we established our business, we hired more than 60% of our employees from Danao. By employing these skilled workers, we provide them a proper livelihood by taking them away from doing illegal gun manufacturing," Mr De Leon said proudly. But just because Mr De Leon has employed some of Danao's gunsmiths, it doesn't mean that the illegal trade has stopped. 'Feed my family' It is easy to find gunmakers in Danao - just ask almost any local. There is currently a ban on the carrying of firearms in the Philippines, ahead of congressional elections in May, and many of Danao's gunsmiths have moved from the city centre to homes up in the mountains. But they are still not hard to find, and trade doesn't seem to be adversely affected. I met one man who was smoothing out the edges of a pistol in a little rickety shack. Children and chickens jostled for space around him. "I got into this business through my relatives. I didn't have chance to go to school - my parents were too poor," he said. "This way I can feed my family." image captionIllegal gunsmiths don't ask buyers what the weapon will be used for He is hoping to sell his finished pistol for 5,000 pesos ($125; £80). He said he doesn't ask what the buyer needs the gun for - and neither do they need to provide any official documents, as they would at Shooters Arms. "I don't know who the people are who buy my weapons. They just come here and pay in cash," he said. In a country with a communist rebel group, three Islamic rebel groups, not to mention extortion gangs, hired assassins and more than 100 private armies, it's easy to see why business is good. Future problems It is also easy to see why the authorities say they are trying to crack down on the practice. The police estimate there are 600,000 unregistered and therefore illegal guns in circulation. Independent analysts say there are far more. In recent months, as in the US, the Philippines has started to soul-search after several shooting sprees and incidents in which children have been hit by stray bullets. There has been a growing clamour for tighter controls - more restrictions on gun ownership, and more aggressive attempts to stop the manufacture of illegal firearms. image captionThere have been calls for stricter control over gun ownership But this is a country where having a gun is almost part of the culture. I have been offered one several times, and certainly in the more dangerous areas of the southern island of Mindanao, almost everyone I know has some sort of firearm. All security guards are armed, and every person manning the door of a shopping mall or hotel has a shotgun. It is unlikely that any law will pass that would have a serious impact on the gunmakers at Shooters Arms. And even the illegal gunsmiths of Danao don't seem particularly concerned. They know too many people. They've been there too long. They've weathered previous attempts to stop their trade. https://www.bbc.com/news/business-21840183 So they carry on making their firearms in their little workshops, using their skills and ingenuity to earn a livelihood. But in doing so, they are creating a lot of problems for the rest of the country, and potentially further afield as well.
The key to stopping illegal gun possesion is tough federal penalties.Statisticlly zero people are caught with illegal fully automatic weapons,mostly because its a 10 year federal prison sentence.IIRC only around 10% of illegal possession cases are felons in possession of a gun because its a 5 year federal sentence.If a person in possession of an illegal gun has no record they will do no jail time.If they have a record but no felonies they will do very little jail time. illegal possession of a firearm should be 5 years federal for everyone. Next step would be holding legal gun owners responsible and liable for thier guns if they get into the hands of criminals.
Illegal gunsmithing you say now. And next people might turn to sorcery and conjure firearms from magical spells. What you’re doing here is a form of analysis paralysis. Meaning you’re over thinking the the solution and preventing yourself from taking the necessary action. So you’re posing possibilities that aren’t meaningful to prevent forward progress. Whether it’s Mexico somehow becomes a net gun importer or people turning to smithing for guns those are actions that would have to be addressed then, not now because they aren’t real issues now.
Your world view is extremely limited. I doubt you have ever spent any significant amount of time (beyond a vacation) outside of the USA and I am sure you only speak one language. Your lack of ability to see one or two steps ahead as what will obviously happen next leads you to strawmanning me by simply pointing out other sources of illegal guns will be had. Are you so lazy and weak minded that you are not aware of the illegal gunsmithing cases that the ATF is dealing with right now? How many cases of illegal gunsmithing in the USA do I need to cite? https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdwa/pr/gunsmith-charged-converting-firearm-illegal-machinegun From conversions, to illegal ammo and gun manufacturing. You really do lead a sheltered and American centric limited perspective existence.
Trumptards expecting same standard of behavior from criminals that is expected from officers of law. Conservatism is indeed the religion of retards.
What I do know is what it takes to be successful. Success is meeting the challenges before you today. That is how you win in life. You cannot be afraid of the challenges that may come tomorrow so much so that you become paralyzed today. If gunsmithing becomes a major problem tomorrow then we meet that challenge tomorrow. Do you see? Life doesn’t reward cowards.