Fed Monetizes 1 Trillion in MBS and Treasuries for 2013

Discussion in 'Economics' started by achilles28, Dec 4, 2012.

  1. ktm

    ktm

    Very interesting. I will have to track this down and read it. I don't always agree with Soros, but he is a smart fellow and I do enjoy reading what he shares. Thanks for the info.
     
    #171     Dec 8, 2012
  2. yes, but everything you read or see from the right or the left you should have mixed feelings about

    gotta keep that bullshit detector working, especially when it comes to big economic ideas

    nothing wose than someone who leaned swomething, then closes their mind to all opposing views. Better to ty to understand both sides
     
    #172     Dec 8, 2012
  3. piezoe

    piezoe

    Yes! That does not mean we will have to exist in a permanent state of wishy-washiness , because once we have weighed both sides we will usually end up on one side or the other, or just conclude we need more information. But at least we listened to both points of view before making up our minds. And we must always remain aware of our human fallibility. We can be cock sure and yet wrong!
     
    #173     Dec 8, 2012
  4. piezoe

    piezoe

    I like the "Soros lectures at the Central European University". It is available on Amazon for little more than the postage. In it he outlines his "Reflexivity" theory. This is a word he coined for a phenomenon of behavioral economics recognized not just by Soros but some other economists as well. But I think he is the main proponent and has taken the idea further than others. What Soros has done is make a strong case for reflexivity-- one consequence of which are positive feedback loops that push markets away from equilibrium-- and the failure of mainstream economic theory. He also uses logic precepts to place economics and science in context with one another. Economics is NOT science.

    I found his ideas fascinating. I highly recommend this little book of lectures. They are on YouTube as well, but I find I have better comprehension when I read them.
     
    #174     Dec 8, 2012
  5. the general idea of reflexivity is, allowing a kid to eat ice cream evey night for dinner in hopes that he willl eventually behave like an adult and prefer a serving of fruits and vegetables, may not be the best way to raise a child. Although true, eventually he may come around, what makes it hard to intervene is, "He seems to be doing just fine, and has a lot of energy."

    So, nobody wants to sell at the top, and nobody wants to buy at the bottom. If everybody did, there would be no tops or bottoms.

    They wouldn't be talking about him if he lived a life of no peaks and valleys (especially the peaks), but the point is, what you know to be true and what the market tells you is true is exactly opposite in a bubble. So, in his opinion, there may be a better guiding priciiple than just letting the market sort it all out.

    and introducing reflexivity is like a crooked referee who is getting paid to make sure the game ends close.

    How is that different than the Fed? well carry on, now I'm out of my league
     
    #175     Dec 8, 2012
  6. Bob111

    Bob111

    where do we go from here?

    note the decline in volume after initial spike..are we going to go l 100% japan's copy or fed's way?
     
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    #177     Dec 9, 2012
  8. zdreg

    zdreg


    consider the character of the american people vs. japanese people.
    you will have your answer.
     
    #178     Dec 9, 2012
  9. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    we had katrina...looting, shooting, choas wild wild west style.
    They had tsunami... helping each other, no looting at least not on the news..
     
    #179     Dec 9, 2012
  10. Bob111

    Bob111

    #180     Dec 11, 2012