Guys, I grew as a newbie trader watching Jon and Hub. Now, I've come to realise they're full of it. So are all the other mentors I've seen on the web. If they could do what they say, why would they be surfing around trying to find customers. Why wouldn't they be putting their millions to work, pulling cash out of the market ATMs they talk about? I've tried and tested, and the crap don't work. Please justify to me, risking 2 points on the ES with 3 contracts to earn .5 points, 1 point, and 2 points. Are you really going to risk 100 dollars to earn 12.50 less commission with the first contract? 2 winners and 1 loser amounts to a loss. I've been in the trading room. 50/50 at best. Some mornings, three stop outs in a row! I was truly dis heartened about 2 weeks ago. I got an email from Hubert. It was the saddest thing I'd ever heard, and I guess was directed to the newbs of the newbs. Hubert was going to reveal, at risk of being black balled, all the secrets of the secret trading world, everything he knew, for only 499 dollars. One catch though. You had to promise to teach others what he taught you. It was like a knife through my heart. The true scum revealed itself. No successful trader would put them selves down to such bull. Reading the TRIN and VIX is no big secret that will get anyone black balled. Completely full of BS. And to think, pull still read Carter's book like it's a bible. What do you do once you realise you've been fully delusioned? After years and years of buying the crap, what do you do?