FBI Plot uncovered - is this Prima Facie Treason?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Dec 13, 2017.

  1. Too bad Trump isn't president because then he could just call up the AG and Director of the FBI and tell them to cooperate with congress or else. I mean, provided Gen. Kelly will let him use the phone.

    Telling the FBI or DOJ to drop a prosecution for sketchy reasons is a problem. That is why people like the Clintons and Obama have such an advantage over an outsider like Trump. They have weaponized political drones already in place at relevant agencies who know what to do.

    This Strzok character seems to go well beyond that. I say that because a lowly investigator at the FBI does not go around editing crucial findings made by the Director. It's the other way around. The Director is supposed to make the decisions. Yet somehow Comey, with all his vast experience as a prosecutor, allows an investigator to change his conclusion? And Mr. Sanctimonious, Comey, is ok with his assistant director getting an enormous cough..cough campaign contribution from a Clinton fixer?

    And no one saw anything suspicious about the lead investigator for the Clinton email scandal morphing into the lead investigator for the Russia collusion fantasy? Just for the sake of appearance, wouldn't you want different people involved? Unless the fix was in and you had to have your point guy overseeing things?

    In sum, this stinks. Worse than anything from the toxic waste dump of the Clinton administration.
     
    #91     Dec 16, 2017
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  2. True, but you are being too easy on them. It is actually uglier than that.

    Don't forget that the decisionmaking/editing that was improperly delegated by Comey to his underlings had already been improperly delegated to him by Loretta. Comey basically failed at doing Loretta's job, although he was a willing and colluding victim.

    If Loretta was conflicted due to her misbehavior on the tarmac then she needed to find a subordinate in the prosecutorial (rather than investigative) ranks of the Justice Department- not the FBI. In the same way- as an imperfect analogy- if the local district attorney needs to recuse on a case, he needs to give it to someone else in his office- NOT THE FRIGGING CHIEF OF POLICE.

    What a mess.
     
    #92     Dec 16, 2017
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  3. Maybe they were ok handing it off to Comey because they knew they had their guy Strzok actually running things. He apparently felt he could violate FBI rules with impunity, at least until Trump was elected. This guy is definitely worth a second look. How he got there, his bank accounts, etc. Probably all sanitized by now though.
     
    #93     Dec 16, 2017
  4. Trump lawyer: Mueller improperly obtained transition documents in Russia probe
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    A lawyer for the Trump presidential transition team is accusing Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office of inappropriately obtaining transition documents as part of its Russia probe, including confidential attorney-client communications and privileged communications. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

    A lawyer for the Trump presidential transition team is accusing Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office of inappropriately obtaining transition documents as part of its Russia probe, including confidential attorney-client communications and privileged communications.

    In a letter obtained by Fox News and sent to House and Senate committees on Saturday, the transition team’s attorney alleges “unlawful conduct” by the career staff at the General Services Administration in handing over transition documents to the special counsel’s office.

    Officials familiar with the case argue Mueller could have a problem relating to the 4th Amendment – which protects against unreasonable searches and seizures.

    Kory Langhofer, the counsel to Trump for America, wrote in the letter that the the GSA “did not own or control the records in question.”

    But, Langhofer says, Mueller’s team has “extensively used the materials in question, including portions that are susceptible to claims of privilege.”

    Trump for America is the nonprofit organization that facilitated the transition between former President Barack Obama to President Trump.

    The GSA, an agency of the United States government, provided the transition team with office space and hosted its email servers.

    The special counsel’s office did not immediately return a request for comment Saturday.

    The Trump transition team lawyer argued the actions “impair the ability of future presidential transition teams to candidly discuss policy and internal matters that benefit the country as a whole.”

    Langhofer requests in the letter that Congress “act immediately to protect future presidential transitions from having their private records misappropriated by government agencies, particularly in the context of sensitive investigations intersecting with political motives.”

    The letter was sent to the Senate Homeland Security and House Oversight Committees.

    The committees did not immediately return a request for comment.

    Fox News’ Joseph Weber contributed to this report.
     
    #94     Dec 16, 2017
  5. Wallet

    Wallet

    Hell, every time Obama was asked to turn over anything, the response was always no, executive privilege. The man has everything in his life lawyered up and sealed behind a wall of attorneys.

    If Trumps wants he should start telling people to pound sand.

    When the proof finally comes out the the FISA warrants were issued on illegal and false pretenses, Mueller's case, all this non-sense goes bye-bye and is shown for the political hatchet job it actually is.

    Edit... But what's not being brought to light is the depth of corruption behind all this, as the powers that be run down both sides of the aisle.

    The FBI is being used by the deep state, and several will end up as fall guys.
     
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    #95     Dec 16, 2017
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  6. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark



    Renato Mariotti.Candidate for Illinois Attorney General. Former federal prosecutor. Legal expert for TV and print.





     
    #96     Dec 17, 2017
  7. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Obama wasn't under a criminal investigation by his own DOJ who had to appoint someone from the outside because of firing the guy investigating your corrupt cabal.
     
    #97     Dec 17, 2017
  8. People need to be fired over this. How could the GSA hand over a treasure trove of emails to Mueller without the WH or DOJ being aware? And if the DOJ was aware and raised no objections, that is an even bigger problem.

    Hillary uses an illegal private email system and is allowed to skate on criminal charges. Trump uses the government system and has the emails turned over the Mueller, where they begin the inevitable leaking. This is prime opposition research material, as it contains candid assessments of various officeholders and potential appointees. Mueller's entire investigation is beginning to look like nothing more than a massive government-funded democrat oppo research effort and coverup for the FBI scandals. Time to end it.
     
    #98     Dec 17, 2017
  9. jem

    jem

    Which court would Trump be filing his motion in?

    What are his lawyer going to do? Go into a court, guess the jurisdiction and get an order for Mueller to return all the docs after they have been read? You can't unring that bell.

    There is no court to file a motion to exclude evidence if Mueller has not started the criminal process with an indictment or a complaint.

    this is just more leftist stupidity.

     
    #99     Dec 17, 2017
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  10. Indeed.

    It is just the normal extension of Mueller's past history. As discussed, he does all the ballbusting aggressive stuff up front and has a real field today when no charges have been filed and therefore there is no defense team organized to counter them. But his history has always been that the appeals courts reverse most of his gains. I mean on the big cases where he was fully invested, not the justice department/fbi daily caseload grind.


    And he is clearly headed down that road again. The lefty part-time thinkers here come out and declare victory or impending doom every time Mueller does something. The reality, though, is that it is just another item throw on the heap of things that a good defense team will eventually bludgeon him with. AND/OR the dirty tricks will fuel sentiment for appointing a special investigator for Camp Clinton and Camp DOJ and thereby flood the zone every day with so many revelations about corruption that the dems will be begging for all this investigation stuff to end or not go any further in their direction. Already seeing some of that aren't we?

    As always, I say: Bring it on. Mueller simply does well until charges are filed and the defense team shows up. Go for it. The tards read a Washington Post article and think Trump is going to resign tomorrow. Others see the same circumstances and think that the explosive number of appealable or constitutional issues that are piling up guarantees that Trump can keep things churning in the courts for years if needed, and will likely appoint more of the judges who will review it.

    Those GSA documents have been released and there is no motion that can be filed that will in-release them or unscramble that egg. That does not mean though that Mueller gets a free pass and that if tries to go to trial he wont be hearing about it again. Not by a longshot. And there is no motion that be filed to undo the biased actions of the FBI, and there is no motion that can be filed to undo the use of dossier to get a FISA warrant, if that was the case. Trump has to live with that now. BUT SO DOES MUELLER THE CLOWN.


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    #100     Dec 17, 2017