fitz, your points are valid and yes my recent style is inclined to quick scalp plays (i stated that from the start). posting these quick plays is not as easy at it looks, and this is just for fun. in no way am i trying to do anything else but having a little fun. i may go to chatroom, particularly if its easier to post. to tell the truth posting here has thrown my timing off a hair and i have missed a couple of good plays while i was pulling the browser, typing with one eye and watching the setups with another. at first i thought this was going to be a a cake walk but it is not. try it. i would like to see you in action too. ps "DOWN TO SECOND!" i can't do that and i do acknowledge that seanote does a much better job at it than i do. i'll try to clean it up but..... i am full of sh*t? possibly. maybe. probably. almost for certain.