hi, i know that a number prop firms who recruit trader trainees.. and I have attented 1 of these tests and have 1 with optiver coming next month - but im going to cancel it because I know what the test is like now and im not going to waste my time. my question is this, seriously: do you really have to be a math-genius to be a good trader/work for these guys? i think its bollox. what the hell does lightning arithmetic skills have anything to do with trading? sure you need to have a mathematical mind, and be good at math generally - but the people they look for are true geniuses.. I mean the test I sat before was like 80 questions in 4 minutes. and optivers test is even harder - 80 questions in 8 minutes, -1 for wrong answers, -2 for missed questions and u gotta get like 55 just to go to the 2nd and 3rd tests.. its just ridiculous. For me, trading is most importantly a matter of good judgment. a math genius can never be a successful trader if he or she cannot make good judgements, has no sense of value of the product and timing. now can anyone tell me how figuring out 45/35 - 23/53 in 5 seconds makes a good trader? Thanks.