falcondaytraders

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by lbcando, Oct 1, 2007.

  1. I hope those that come here to learn about Blue can see the obvious....over a 100 traders "trained" closer i think to 130...ONLY ONE cretin defending the SHYSTER...ONLY ONE...and i bet it is the grand high exalted con artist himself!!!!


    He and his son are the only ones that come to his defense. Why...because all the others are going down the drain.

    No one can make any sense of this mishmash of crap and double talk that is the daily staple of this low life.


    "I won't accept just anyone in the room...they have to be interviewed"..he says during the free trial...He will take the last penny of anyone that can wire 7g's...that is the requirement!!!

    Blue is a LIAR...NOTHING he say is true...NOTHING...and you guys sitting in that room listening to his daily crap are SUCKERS. I hate to be harsh...I sympathize with you...I was ripped off too...but just because i was punched in the gut does not mean I am going to stand there and let this con artist fill lie to me day after day after day.

    Wake up...some of you in the room should have someone slap you in the face so that you will come clean.

    Stop wasting your time...He plans on booting out all but the last 2 classes...WHY...because these novices still have there heads and hearts filled with hope...That is what he preys on...your vulnerabilities. The older members know the scam...but too many just cannot take the final step of severing this strangle hold of stupidity.

    Have some balls..come into this forum and speak to your experience. Let people know the truth.

    Blue is a liar..a crook...made of the stuff that you find on the bottom of your shoe when you stepped in some crap. Scrap it OFF...stop living a life of deception!!!
     
    #311     Dec 5, 2007
  2. Wahtawaste or Blue if you like that better. We all know it is you. If you want us to say who we are then you do something very easy for the best trader in the world. Show us one trade from any year at anytime. Not your made up ones under someone else’s name. I do have to say for the 4k we spent you are keeping us with some fun times just reading this stuff. Listening to you in the room is like a comedy act. First you say "This is the price, No that was the price, No the moon was not lined up right". Whatever you can come up with.


    You say how much you love everyone and God wants you to help other people. You tell us that if you do good, good things will come to you. Well you feel you are doing so much good for everyone and look at what you are getting back.Only a sliver of the misery you doled out to the 100 plus you scammed!!! I wish the hurt and pain you caused comes back to you 1000 fold!!!
    Almost everyone in here is lost, all you do is get mad and tell everyone you are shutting down the room. If your bullshit worked about you giving and getting back, then none of this would be happening. You claim there are so many people making money because of you, please, Where are they? If you are teaching it, show us it works!!! show any of your trades!!! ANY TRADES!!!


    Read this book, read that one, watch this movie and that will help you. Give me a break!!! Give these people a way to trade that makes sense, that has some truth behind, it instead of the lies you peddle. Then something might work!!!


    I know why you have so many different parts to your system. So you can cover your ass and say well you should have used this one, when one of you "90%ers" blow up!! like they do 90% of the time. How is anybody suppose to know? Even you don’t know!!! If the price hits you dig into your bag of lies and come out with "see you had to use this today" The next day it is a different story, "oh that is no good today you should have used that": How can you sleep at night?


    You come into the room and tell everyone how hurt you are. You want everyone to feel bad for you. Give me a break. What confident person does that? If you knew this system worked you would not care what anyone said. If it worked this would never be happening.


    That is your thing, make it as hard as can be and then say, "oh you just don’t understand it". "You don’t want it enough". Who in there right mind does not want to make money????
    Remember the law of ATTRACTION. Maybe you need to read your books that you try and push on everyone else. Maybe you are attracting what you deserve. The truth to you is like sunlight to a vampire. And like Dracula you try to suck the last bits of blood from the people "you care about SO MUCH".YOU ARE A VERY DISHONEST PERSON and you know it and so do MANY MANY OTHERS. That is something that does not change day to day!!!
     
    #312     Dec 5, 2007
  3. "Exclusivity: Falcon Trader will be sold only to a small group of traders. I developed the system primarily for my own trading and plan to support myself by trading the system in my personal account. The sale of the system is for the sole purpose of recouping some of the original investment without watering down the performance by allowing too many traders to trade the same signals."

    Besides the above quote clearing expressing that he cannot TRADE HIS SYSTEM profitably...(he has to sell a system to recoup the cost of MADE UP RESEARCH). Blue states a concern that not too many traders will take the same signals "watering down the performance"....That could not happen if there were 100,000 members!!! No one has a clue to what the signals are. How could there be too many taking the SAME signal?

    The only thing members have expertise in is taking the WRONG SIGNALS...how do we know they are wrong?.. because after you get stopped out His Blueness will tell you.."NO NO you didn't have the "context right".... "NO NO it is the wrong time of day...No No it is Wednesday...No NO the alligator's hindquarters were akimbo...No no your mindset is misalignment....No no besides the fibonaccithingamajig was in opposition to the Andrew's spatula ...and next time sing a chorus of Swanee before you pull the trigger if you are going long...Short requires a different tune... try "When you wish upon a Star"....UNWARD AND UNWARD MY FRIENDS!!!!


    No end to the explanations ...the excuses...the talk talk talk..any outsider witnessing Blue in action would question the sanity of his adherents. Imagine there are still people from the beginning knocking their heads against the wall day after day, trying to make sense of the endless prattle of this shyster.

    If I wasn't part of it ...if I had not witnessed it first hand ..i would not believe it..

    But so it goes day after day...
     
    #313     Dec 5, 2007
  4. Too funny and too sad.

    You FTD victims are doing the trading community a real service. Keep up the posts. It's very refreshing to see real people, who paid real money, speak against an unscupulous vendor, rather than those who bash and not know of what they speak, like the ones who attacked TradingZoo. (The TradingZoo may also have its warts, but we have yet to hear from disgruntled members who laid out their hard earned cash.)

    It's a real pity this thread is in the chit chat section rather than educational resources where it belongs. Better here than nowhere.
     
    #314     Dec 5, 2007
  5. kayak1206

    kayak1206

    It's a real pity this thread is in the chit chat section rather than educational resources where it belongs. Better here than nowhere.

    I agree... this thread has great educational value specially for new traders filled with hopes and dreams ....we should move this there....and thanks for taking time educating all of us ....
    it takes courage to do that after such a devastating experience
    greatly appreciated
     
    #315     Dec 6, 2007
  6. Another day ... and everyone had the opportunity to "recycle". Honestly that is what he refers those trades that go south and burn up the account...and believe me there is no end to those trades...

    He wants his students to be happy. They aren't losing their shirts ...they are making a contribution to the "ENVIRONMENT"!!!...little did I know that Blue was a Global warming advocate as well as a lowlife shyster con artist.

    Now if he could only resolve the unease of the room members as their accounts blowup and actually make them "enjoy" recycling, his problems would be over.

    The unfortunate truth is there are some in the room that accept this...Ah the joy of recycling....Blue style!!!!
     
    #316     Dec 6, 2007
  7. CA99999

    CA99999

    Blue's performance this last week, has been "impressive".
    No, not impressive trading, but impressive mind manipulation!
    The education of the last group is over, and Blue has been furious about the members writing the truth about him, on this site. He has been fumigating, threatening to close down the rooms, and are now engaging "his troops" in a full out quest to find out which members are writing to this site. Of course, we are all "bad" people, because we are trying to destroy what he is trying to build up. We are destroying his "vision". And the threats of shutting down his rooms have effect on the new people who just went through the class, they are fired up and very enthusiastic, but now fearing they may lose Blue as their savior.

    And this is where Blue really shines, this is Blue at his best:
    He manages to get these new members to "love" him, to express to him how much they "feel" for him, how much they despise us "bad" people who post "bad" stuff and "badmouth" Blue. We are "negative" people.
    Blue plays these people like a Stradivarius. He manipulates their mind, making them believe in him, believe in what he tells them, and not believe anything of what his old students (those who know Blue much better than any of these new people) are saying about him. He makes them march to his drums, inducing them to believe they are on their way to Traders Paradise. And when people who know Blue, are waving warning flags along the road, telling them this road leads straight to the slaughterhouse, they want to kill the messengers! It is totally surreal!



    To the newest members, I have the following to say:
    I certainly have sympathy for you. After all, just like us you invested your hard earned money in Blue. You are now as enthusiastic as we were, after we had gone through Blue's class the first time (and before we tried to make sense of what Blue had been lecturing about). Of course, you are full of hope and desperately want to believe Blue actually will follow through and make you successful traders.

    But you have been duped. You are no different from us other members writing here, we are just a few months ahead of you. We have gone through what you now are going through. And I can tell you your hopes of Blue being the answer to your trading success, are totally baseless. You cannot expect to learn French from a person who does not speak French, nor can you expect to learn trading from a person who cannot trade.
    What you can learn from Blue, is mind manipulation. He is an expert in that, you will probably in your life never meet a more skilled mind manipulator than Blue.
    But that was not what you paid him to do for you, was it?

    If you don't believe what I am saying, just think of this:
    If Blue was the person he hold himself out to be ("the best trader that has ever lived"), this site would not exist. Who in their right mind would say "no thank you" to be taught by the "worlds best trader"?
    And, even if anyone raised questions or wrote "bad" stuff about Blue, why would he care?
    He could just say to the room, "People, I have seen some bad writings about me. None of what you have seen is true, and I will now halt the teaching for one full week, and instead make trade calls, calls that anyone of you can take if you so choose. I will tell you exactly what trade to take, what order to place, where to place the stop and where to take profit. After this week, you can make your own judgment of my trading skills. If my trading is not what what I have told you it is, and if you in any way are dissatisfied with my trading performance, I will return the money you paid me. Period. I don't need your money, and I certainly don't need any of you having doubts about my trading ability or trading system."

    Blue could have done this. This is what an honest and good trader would do. This is pure logic.
    But he did not.

    We have many times asked Blue to make trade calls to the room, instead of retro trade. Blue himself has promised us over and over again to do so. But it never happens. When time comes for him to make trade calls, there are always one or more excuses for why he cannot do it.

    This last week is no exception. Blue has wasted yet another week to prove to us that he actually can trade. Yet for another week he has done exactly what a con man always will do: Go on the attack against the people who are disclosing the truth about him, and blaming these "bad" people for destroying everything for the "good" people. Then stirring up the new members by talking about shutting down the rooms, kicking people out from the rooms and changing passwords to the rooms. But the problem is not the members, nor is it the password. The problem is that each and every one of us purchased from Blue a product that does not exist. We purchased empty promises based on lies.

    I don't know how much longer Blue can go on with this scam. Obviously, he has no conscience for all the people he is hurting. That is not even a consideration for Blue, because it has never been about us (remember the "official" explanation for him sharing his "secrets" with us, was because he wanted to "help" good people become successful traders?). Instead it has always been about him (read what Lucid, who has known Blue for many years, writes on page 41).
    It is hard to understand, but Blue must be incredible naive not to understand what is going on behind his back in the rooms. Most members now know he is a con man (only some of the newer members are still hoping he is for real), and are talking behind his back, laughing at him whenever they hear him whining and crying out for sympathy from the room members, just like a baby. It is hard to believe he is a grown man.


    Blue, why are you angry at us members who post here?
    After all, we are the ones who stuffed your pockets with money. Lots of money.
    What is the exact amount again, is it $500k, $600k or $700k now?
    You should thank us for having made you rich!
    We stuffed your pockets with money. What did you stuff our pockets with?
    Lies. Empty words. Broken promises. Nothing.

    Blue, why does telling the truth, make us "bad" people?
    Since when is telling the truth about anything, a "bad" thing?
    Which planet do you live on?

    Here is another truth:
    The only thing truth is bad for, are lies and untruth!
    So if you call us "bad" people for telling the truth, what does that make you?


    Whathebuzz, welcome to the site. You sure sound like a person people would love to have as a friend or neighbor (not). I am sure Blue must feel very proud to have you in his room, and to have you support and represent him on this site. You sure add a lot of "wisdom, trustworthiness and dignity" to Blue's operations. But Whathebuzz, you are very misguided. This site is not about you or your success (or lack thereof). It is about the product you and 100 other of us, purchased. Maybe you like to get lied to, but I don't.
     
    #317     Dec 8, 2007
  8. Whathebuzz is BLUE!!!!. That is why he is so stirred by the truth telling he finds here. He is THE ONLY ONE to come here to defend his BS. Imagine he writes what lowlifes we are because we are exposing his scam...ridicules us for hiding our id's and what does he do?...Comes here and pretends he is a student!!!! What else do you have to know?

    Here on this site blue has now become our little bitch ... In the Oz land of falcon ...he is a wizard, but here we bitch slap him because that is what he deserves.

    These comments here are dedicated to those not yet scammed by this dolt. The others in the room...It is too late for them.

    There are some in the room listening to the endless ramblings of the scam artist lowlife for nearly 2 years. Some admit they "still don't get it". This after filling endless hours listening to this know nothing twit... hour after endless hour...day after day...year after year...still no clue.

    Notebook upon notebook...components upon components...Blue why doesn't it work??? "oh you had to be aware of the "megaphone"...THE MEGAPHONE???? Why didn't you tell me that a year ago...maybe it would of made a difference...Maybe...Maybe

    For the new ones ...you will have to go through a process...you are invested now...both money and time. In about 6 months, probably less you will begin having your doubts. Losing trade after miserable losing trade and endless mindless explanations of what you should of done from the high exalted con artist supreme... Then after a while as you faithfully follow the indecipherable instructions as best you can ..you find nothing changes...Nothing you do works no matter what you do....Blue now gives you a new story... a new song and dance about what you should be doing...and by the way are you reading the Gratitude book?

    Eventually you will get this gnawing in the pit of your stomach...that will be the tell..You have FINALLY GOT IT...This is all BS!!! THIS IS A FREAKIN SCAM!!! Those former member at Elite were right!!! Why didn't i listen!!!

    You will begin to voice your doubts and Blue will boot you. Only room here for the newly primed ones... the eager ones...the faithful ones..the ones who don't know yet the full extent of what they are getting involved in...He will use the new ones to coral new fodder to bleed and it will go on and on and...

    Believe me this is no small crime...we are talking real money this POS is stealing. I only wish there was some way to stop him. Anyone with some legal expertise is welcome to give advise. Blue has to be stopped!!! Enough is enough!!!!
     
    #318     Dec 8, 2007
  9. Well I really cant add to much to the last two posts. You too guys pretty much some it up in two post's. I guess by being one of the older members here people just come to me and ask questions. So many of them are reading this site and finding out how true it is.

    He always come up with i cant teach and trade, how hard could it be to have a mic on your desk, look at the market and say ok i am getting in here. You have a head set on and a finger on you mouse. Here is the price and i am getting in now here is the price and i am getting out. How hard could this be. Even if you are not paying attention to what you are saying to the class, tell us i cant teach now i am just watching the market for a trade.

    How hard would it be to say i am in, It is not hard at all. If a person was the worst trader in the world he could do that. It is not done because his real trade calls dont work. Not the ones 4 points from this price and a 27 point stop, real trading IN HERE OUT HERE. That is trading blue, do that for a month and i will promise this will all stop. I now know most of the people that write here and I give you my word, if you do this it will all stop.

    I know, you are tired of this whole thing so now it is too late. No Blue prove us wrong, if you are done with this make us hate all we have done by pushing you away. You wont and you cant, go give your books out go tell everyone to watch some worthless movie that has nothing to do with trading. The whole idea of all that garbage is to make it all more confusing, so many different things to look at. You are good Blue not at trading but your ability to brainwash all the poor people you have hurt. Merry Christmas and Thanks so much for your wonderful gift.
     
    #319     Dec 9, 2007
  10. WOW you needed to hear the bull today. He is telling the last two groups how great they are doing. That the teaching he gave the others course's was not as good. Do you know why he is telling them that? To bring them all into the next free trial and have them tell everyone how good he is.

    He is saying "I dont know if i want to do the next course" if he needs money he will do it. He just does not stop. The hell with the people that have been here for two years, Just make the new classes suck up feel great so they can say OH HE IS GREAT at the free trial. The more i hear you lately the more sick i get.

    You are a coward, Come in and say i am getting in here and out here. How come all the great traders in the room only post once in a while? Because we cant do your garbage. You have hurt so many people, and you speak about giving what a disgrace. How in god's name do you look at yourself. All the money you have been paid and you cant show one real trade.

    When we all drop dead you will have to answer for what you did to all these poor people. We will find away to get this forum out to more people and stop you from hurting more innocent people. You Know there are only a few getting it but you keep selling more and more courses. How does that not bother you, I guess it always comes down to making money. The great man that cries over everything except for taking money for something you know no one cant understand. What a lowlife thing to do.
     
    #320     Dec 10, 2007