CA999999: You are spot on even to the point of your IDing the traders who came to Blue's defense saying that anything negative said about Blue was wrong and how they loved Blue and how their lives had changed after paying him tuition and getting in the room! See my previous post on page 3 of this thread where I answered a question posed by a confused person. I mentioned in there about the "shilling" that took place in the room. Next day Big Dog Kevin said the members wanted me booted out which he then did. Sensitive bunch. I should have just copied the whole thread and posted it in the trial room and said nothing and let blue dog and falcon try to explain it. Ilbecando and you have it right about brokers trading. They can't. What most of them can do is talk glibly. Blue is amazing. He scams people into his room for double the old "Club 3000" price of $3000 and then the same people leap to his defense when people who showed up because of all the great claims ask the obvious questions. Like if you are such a great trader how come you didn't recognize that Monday, Oct 1, is a trend day and the best thing to do is go long and hold till the close-not try all the counter trend (CT) stuff that floor traders do successfully. He really squirmed on that one. The 20 number game didn't work because the market just blew through all 10 high numbers he threw out there and never looked back. Yet the shills kept printing, "Good trading, blue. Right on blue." Katy was especially bad. She loves Blue but claims she can't trade because her boy friend got killed in a car accident! Then, she had to go. Yeah, right. Led me to believe he coached a number of them. He had at least 20 FDT traders in the room. The reason they were so vocal is they had nothing else to do. They sure weren't trading. Day traders do not answer telephones during trading hours. They make calls to their brokers. They do not run chat rooms or answer email till after market hours. Period. Trading is concentration intense. It is difficult to spot the setups and you can't be a minute late - or early. What I would like to know is this. Have you been retaliated against? Kicked out of a room for offering a well thought out and insightful presentation of what actually is going on? Has Ilbecando been retaliated against?