Faith, and other sins they don't want you to know about.

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by Good1, Nov 15, 2020.

  1. Good1

    Good1

    Faith is a sin.

    Here is a list of other sins they don't want you to know about:

    Birth (beginnings)
    Death (endings)
    Change (same as death)
    Eating (same as believing)
    Drinking (same as believing)
    Breathing
    Seeing (with eyeballs)

    Those were manifestations of sin. Here are a few more:

    Stars (faith in physical form)
    Planets
    Oceans
    Trees

    There are sins which remain invisible (unmanifested):

    Physics (the laws of faith)
    Mathematics (the organization of separate things)
    Thinking (granular faith)



    As you can see, faith comprises everything about mankind, including the very conception of everything that comprises mankind. This is the true meaning of the phrase, "born in sin".

    To get a better understanding, this might be a good time to deem (re-define) what sin actually is:

    S - seriously
    I - insane
    N - notions

    ...about Good. An alternative name for Good can be Christ, if you will. All sins are about Good. Sins are erroneous notions, about Good. When taken seriously, they drive the believer insane.

    We take sins seriously, whenever we deem them to exist. The more we take them seriously, the more they seem to exist. The more they exist, the more we go insane.

    Faith is the psychological trick that transforms notions into circumstances that seem to exist. Faith is what transforms a "dream", for example, into a "reality". But notions, particularly erroneous notions about Good, can never be transformed into a "reality". As much as it tries, faith is the psychological mechanism that causes confusion about what is real (the truth), and what is fake (a lie, a dream).

    Faith, then, is what causes a mind to become "lost", not knowing what is real and what is not, worse, not knowing what is Good and what is not Good. It is this mind, the lost mind, that soon goes insane. As such, faith is initially destructive. Faith is like setting off an atomic bomb in the middle of reality. The result would be a "big bang" that gives rise to physic (new laws), and the manifestation of those physics (stars, planets, trees, seas, bees ect).

    Physics are notions about new laws that violate the law of Good. Since the law of Good and Good are the same thing (inseparable), physics, driven by faith (in erroneous notions about Good), violate Good to the point of destruction.

    The destruction of Good, through sin (driven by faith), is theoretical. It is the seriousness of faith that transforms a silly notion into something quite ominous and/or dangerous.

    Forgiveness reduces the seriousness that is driven by the faith. Statements that question the legitimacy of physical phenomenon all contribute to forgiveness. Statements that delegitimize faith itself are especially potent in the forgiveness equation.

    Statements that legitimize faith, or otherwise aggrandize and/or worth-ship it, contribute to the effects of faith. This contribution with-holds forgiveness, locking the lost mind in a kind of mental prison.

    Mankind is the manufactured product (manifestation of faith) of erroneous notions about what is Good. The prime notion is that there may be more than Good or more to Good. This notion implies there is more to be known about Good than is currently known. The problem with this notion is that knowledge is total. Good already knows everything. Being everything, Good knows it's Self. Thus, the notion that there might be more to be known initiates the phenomenon of "faith". In turn, that faith manifests another, additional, "self". That self, in turn, manifests additional selves.

    Faith is the doorway to the unknown. Faith is what adds to what is unknown. In modern parlance, faith just makes shit up as it goes. Mankind is just one of many concepts (conceptions, notions) that probe the possibility that there may be more to Good, or more than Good. Mankind is an addition, that exist only within the domain of faith.

    Within the domain of faith, there is nothing that is actually Good. As i've said, it is based upon deeming (thinking, believing) that there is something else, or something more. Faith adds, not to the knowledge-base belonging already to Good, but to it's own experience-base, which it then falsely calls "knowledge". Faith presumes to "know" what is both "Good" as well what is more to Good. Faith does not give a damn about the veracity of it's notions. Whatever is more than Good is deemed to be "Good". Thus, the difference between what is Good and what is not Good is confused. I will call this confusion "God".

    "God" is what faith has made out of Good. As you can see, Good is missing something. It is no longer Good, but those who believe don't really give a damn. It's close enough. It looks good to them. Faith is basically an addition process that functions to subtract from Good. The more faith adds to Good, the more that is subtracted. This is the basis for such phrases as, "You may gain the whole world, but you will lose your soul". That is, the addition of mankind (as well circumstantial surrounds), is gained through the subtraction of what is Good. This is the functioning of faith. Again, faith does not set out to subtract. It sets out to add. However, it can only add by process of subtraction.

    Faith functions to subtract as it deems to add to Good. It subtracts because Good already comprises everything. For example, Good comprises all knowledge. Everything that can be known is already known (by Good). Good is everything. Thus, all knowledge is the knowing of Good.

    Faith, technically speaking, is an addition to knowledge. In function, however, it subtracts from knowledge, such that the believer can never know Good. This is because faith and knowledge are mutually exclusive. That which knows (Good) can never believe anything, and visa versa, that which believes can never know anything.

    Faith makes shit (erroneous notions) up as it goes. As the shit/sin is made up, it is manifested. The purpose of the manifestation is to make it as "real" as possible. It is only real to that which "sees" it. Only faith sees the shit/sins it makes up. The shit/sins cannot be seen by what actually knows (Good). In this way, faith conceives of the concept of eyeballs. Eyeballs are specially designed to see only what faith produces (manifests, makes up). Eyeballs never ever see reality (Good). Worse, eyeballs can only see a narrow spectrum of faith-based unreality (what is not Good, what is more than Good). This adds to the confusion. The end result is a mind that is totally "lost".

    To find one's way out of this labyrinth, it's important to keep in mind that all physical manifestation of the laws of physics, are the product of erroneous phycological notions...about Good. As such, it is always mind over matter, so to speak. Matter, as such, is a manifestation of mental illness. The mental illness is driven by the self-destructive mechanisms of faith, which acts (takes seriously) upon it's erroneous notions about Good. To find one's way out of the labyrinth, never assume mankind is anything more than an appearance that arises out of a void of nothingness, to which it will return when knowledge (of Good) replaces faith in the shit/sin it makes up. By "appearance" i mean it only looks like it exists. But nothing that faith makes up actually exists. Hence, sin itself is a phenomenon that does not exist. Mental health is about sorting this out.

    By calling "sin" what sin is not, believers seek to hide what sin really is. For example, if a believer believes that drinking whiskey is a sin, he hide the fact that drinking, anything, is a sin. If a believer can call sex outside of marriage a sin, he can hide the fact that all sex is ridiculous (an erroneous notion about the genesis of Good).

    If a believer can make distinctions between one type of faith and another, as if one were good, and the other not, he can hide the fact that eating, anything, is a sin. Eating is a sin because Good does not eat anything. As i've said, all sins are erroneous notions about Good that are taken way too seriously. It's this seriousness that gives rise to the manifestation of something that must eat to survive (mankind). The very idea that something must eat something else to survive is rather blasphemous, when compared to the Goodness of Good, which does not need anything to exist. This is to say that all eating, as well all believing, is a sin.

    Eating is synonymous with the consumption of faith. Without faith, man cannot survive. Without the daily consumption of faith, mankind would cease and desist to exist. As said, faith and knowledge are mutually exclusive. If mankind ever added knowledge to his diet, he would starve out faith. Without that faith, mankind would cease to exist. Hence the worth-ship of faith, as a concept. Anyone (sinners) trying to hold on to their apparent existence, must hold onto the faith that manifests his existence out of the nothingness of nowhere. This faith must be his "daily bread", so-to-speak. Holding onto faith, then, is synonymous with holding on to one's "life" (existence) as a manifestation of faith.

    Faith is the basis of all manifested phenomenon that arises from an application of a new set of laws (the laws of physics). These new laws are actually notions, that is, erroneous notions, about Good, and/or the laws of Good. The laws of Good, as well Good (same thing), cannot be altered or changed by the new set of laws (notions taken seriously by faith). If the laws of Good could be changed or altered, Good could be destroyed. This is the function of faith. Faith goes on to assume it has the ability to harm, hurt, or otherwise destroy Good. This is still a function of addition, or the process of adding more to what is already Good. Destruction is the addition of the concept (notion) of vulnerability. This in turn gives rise to the notion of risk. This gives rise to the notion of risk management. Risk management is the basis of "thinking". It's all very logical, flowing downward from an original fullness.

    The faith-based downward trajectory is driven by the logic of differentiation. The concept of "more", for example, is basically a function of differentiation. What is more must be different from what IS (Good). To add more, you must logically keep differentiating between the original Good, as well all the shit/sins you make up along the way down. So now you have a "God" that you think is good, but is not. Then you have many "gods", and are now plagued with trying to figure out which one of them is the "good" one, having rejected the original Good, having subtracted Good in the addition process. In the faith-based downward trajectory, Good is totally forgotten as the mind becomes more and more lost amongst the shit/sin it it constantly making up. As the knowledge of Good is lost, the mind run by faith is driven more and more insane with it's mental illness (erroneous notions).

    To demonstrate the subtraction process, by addition, let me propose, and rightly so, that Good is both beautiful (as possible), and strong (as strong as possible). I want to add more to this, through faith. How can i do that? Well i can make up two new beings, based on new laws that i make up. To one being i can give all the beauty, and to the other i can give all the strength. This gives rise to the concepts of ugly and weak. To add even more than this, i can make two beauties, one more beautiful, and one less beautiful. Likewise, i can make two strong beings, one more powerful, and one less powerful. In this way, i can take all the natural attributes of what is/was Good, and make differentiations with the intention of adding more. But as you can see, i am soon on the path of subtracting more and more in order to maintain the differentiations. Finally, i've made a "worm". Further, i can make several species of "worm", all more or less strong, more or less vulnerable. Next, ugly, but big/strong spiders. Next, beautiful but weak things. For example flowers. Or, women. Yet, all of these neo-manifestations are actually subtractions in an attempt to make more.

    In this faith-based downward trajectory, the mind is lost in it's own morality (pun intended). Whatever it says is good is good. Whatever it says is not good is not good. But only according to the seer, and/or thinker. The world that faith builds is whatever it/you say it is. It has no inherent goodness, nor non-goodness, because it still, basically, does not exist!

    In this faith-based downward trajectory, faith, personified, is "cast down to earth" so-to-speak. Personified, faith is the anti-thesis of what is Good, as faith and knowledge remain forever mutually exclusive. The domain of faith, however, stretches far beyond just the "earth". Earth is a metaphor for all that is built upon the neo-physics of a non-spiritual foundation that builds upon particles (particle physics).

    The earth is a metaphor for all "matter", as well the "laws" that matter is founded upon. The essential differentiation between what is Good and what faith adds, is that in the domain of Good, there are no particles. Thus, there are no laws of particle physics, nor that math that organize those laws.

    Technically, there is no math because there is never more than one thing that actually exists: Good. Good is a unified whole, not a partitioned segregation. Partitioned segregation is a concept added by faith in it's quest to seek out what is more than/to Good.

    Faith, then, is the "beginning" of a bifurcation of mind that ends up with cognitive dissonance. Faith segregates one mental compartment from the other, giving each new "being" several levels of mind, ranging from "sub-conscious" to whatever one sees/experiences with the body. To maintain faith, the mind must maintain a kind of "split" from the mind of Good, which is normally a unified whole with no secret compartments. That is how Good knows it knows everything (its Self).

    The fragmentation of mind is the genesis of ignorance, which is the effort to ignore what is actually knowable (Good). Faith must maintain this ignorance, or suffer it's own demise. Thus, faith has glorified ignorance, and warned against knowledge, in one of the books that celebrates it's manufactured products (such as the "bible", but there are many more books that glorify faith's glam). In faith's domain, knowledge is anathema.

    The bloodline of mankind is a manifestation of the fragmentation of the faith-full (filled with faith) mind. Each new birth of a child is the manifestation of yet another fragmentation of what was one, unified mind. This is the really damaging legacy of faith. A mind so fragmented stands little chance of ever recovering from it's ever deepening state of "lost". By adding more and more compartments and sub-compartments of a mind already estranged from reality (Good), faith subtracts more and more from the knowledge of anything, as it adds faith in everything.

    The effective function of the addition of faith-based appearances, is the near total loss of Good. Effectively, faith puts Good to death, as it constantly kills/changes all of the concepts that it manufactures. None of it's makings survive, as all are subject to change, a fundamental concept that faith lives by, and will eventually die by. Faith kills Life Itself, by adding additional concepts like change. More, and change are essentially the same thing. For example, if Good is constant and changeless (eternal), then what is more than that? The addition of more to a constant eternal (Good) opens the door for whatever unknown changes may arise out of the darkness of ignorance. Death is, fundamentally, rapid radical change...an uncomfortably rapid change into the unknown. This is what faith does to Good when it goes beyond what is known into the unknown. This is a change. A big change. And it happens rapidly and radically. In changing what is Good, faith kills it's very host. This is what it means that Good must die for man to live.

    Those who gladly agree that Good must die for themselves to live have completely lost the plot. Their minds are so far gone from reality (Good) that they risk permanent loss. Why is it good for Good to die that i shall live? A mind filled with faith cannot differentiate what is Good from what is just plain ridiculous (shit/sin).

    Faith would kill Good, if it could.

    Faith may not intend to kill Good. However, in it's ignorance of Good, it's functions serve to subtract, until it finally subtracts the Life of Good from it's awareness. Faith cannot remember what was actually Good, on it's path of manufacturing so many substitutes, similes, likenesses, and outright imposters. The idea that it could add anything at all has been a lie. Finally, the lie has killed the truth, or at least completely wiped empty a faith-filled mind. The faith-filled mind is like a tomb for a dead Christ. Faith keeps what is Good inside a kind of prison, completely misrepresented, mis-manufactured, re-built, re-fabricated, or otherwise artistically rendered. The end result, an idol, replaces any actual knowledge of what is Good, so much so that Good may as well be "dead".

    Faith
    has NO CLUE what is real (Good).

    I hope this makes it clear that faith, in it's initial instantiation, functions as a weapon of self-destruction. In order to profit from faith, it must be re-manufactured upon itself. The "sword", so-to-speak, must be re-fabricated into a "plowshare", so-to-speak. Faith is like a double-edged sword, in it's initial instantiation. Meaning, it has a pointed edge that points outward, as well a pointed edge that points inward. Any kind of thrust outward will also cut up that which uses faith, and cause self-harm.

    Self-harm is man's biggest problem. That which harms man is buried deep in a segregated, compartmentalized compartment of a fragmented mind. Hiding within that compartment is something that believes in erroneous notions about Good, and takes those notions seriously. As faith manifests those notions into a particles based "reality", man is forwarded, and harmed as he moves forward. As man is forwarded as something that actually exists, faith proposes that man is actually Good. Then, as faith harms Good, it also harms man. This is the basis of all man's troubles. Ultimately it is self-harm that lurks in the recesses of a dark mind, fragmented by faith.

    In this scenario, it is not Good that is actually harmed. Rather, it is man that is harmed as man stands in for Good (substitutes for Good). Therefore, it is dangerous to claim existence, when one does not really exist. The solution to this problem is honesty, which is akin to forgiveness. Anything that appears to eyeballs is claiming existence. Since existence is a quality that belongs only to Good, these appearances are standing in for Good. As faith ultimately damages Good (if it could), it damages the appearances (because it can).

    To make this more clear, think of faith, personified, as an archer that aims to shoot, hit, and kill that which is Good. Again, this may not be its intention, but rather it's function. Remember, it only intends to add more. What's wrong with that? It's function is deceptive, and damaging. Faith, which does not exist, cannot harm that which is Good, which does exist. However, faith can harm whatever it says does exist. Thus, faith can harm anything that it manifests. In taking aim at Good, faith is able to hit, wound, and kill anything that it manifests...anything that it declares to be "good". Therefore, it is dangerous to agree with faith's declarations about one's own manifestation (apparent existence).

    The only safe place to be, is to be Good.

    As you can "see", everything that manifests before your eyes is a changing. So much so does it change that a saying has arisen: "The only thing that remains the same is change". This is a reference to the domain of faith. Everything in the domain of faith is changing, as if faith, personified, cannot make up it's mind what it wants, or what it thinks is real. Is this good? Well, it so happens that change gives you, as a manifestation of change, everything you could possibly call "good". Is it not good that you exist (or seem to exist)? And yet, the flip side of change is eventually the destruction of whatever it is you are that seems to exist. Alas, change is what gives you "life" as well as "death", in your role as a manifestation (as "man").

    Change, then, is death, thanks to faith.

    This in mind, everything that faith manifests, is dead. The changing nature of what faith manifests appears to be alive, if you measure life by what is constantly changing. For example, look at a dancer. The dancer changes positions, constantly. The more constantly the dancer changes positions, the more the dancer appears to be alive.

    So you can see that change appears to give "life" to what faith is manifesting. And yet, this change is also responsible for what is called "death", as that which moves stops moving. And yet it hardly stops moving as a dead body is in constant flux as it decays. The mind that occupied the body moves on and continues to change it's mind about what, or who it is. With sufficient seriousness about what more it could be, it may re-establish an identity within the realm of thicker matter. In that realm it will be "born" (changed from previous realm), and as it changes it will be said to "grow" and "live". Alas, it changes once again, and "dies". This is what it means to be "born to die".

    That which lives by change must die by change.

    In this way, change (a gift of faith), offers man more than what Good has. You see, Good has only life. But man has both life AND death. Can you see how man has more?

    Alas, man's so-called "life" is not life, if all change is death. Nor is man's death anything permanent, if all death is change.

    If, on the other hand, man were willing to subtract what he has added to Good, then man could have the Life of Good.

    How then, does man subtract the urge to add more to Good? Man must make an effort to see faith honestly, for what it is, and what it does. Then, man must disown and dissociate from how or what faith has made him into. Man must "renounce", so-to-speak, the works of faith.

    In the renunciation of faith, it is better to subtract the personification of faith that has been added. It is better to see faith as a mental aberration that functions logically, but insanely, rather than an evil persona that rebels from Good. This is a process of owning faith. Faith, and it's manifestations, are one, so-to-speak. There is only one faith, just as there is only one knowledge. As a manifestation, you can also lay claim on the faith that makes you. In this way, through faith, you have become your own maker. If you did not realize this before, it's because of the dishonesty inherent in faith.

    To lay claim on Life, one must renounce faith and it's works. This is how man must "die" (change) in order to save the Life of Good. As man is subtracted from one's mind, the mind naturally awakens to what is Good. What's more, it awakens to what is it's Self, as effortlessly as awakening from a dream.

    Faith is a sin, and all that it manifests.
     
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  2. Your posts are very long. And I don't mean to be rude, but I really don't want to read through all of it. I guess it's fine if you do the same to mine.

    But my response to you is this: the Bible SAYS, "And Abram believed the LORD, and the LORD counted him as righteous because of his faith." Genesis 15:6

    So, the problem, as I see it, is that you have a problem with what the Bible itself says about faith.
     
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  3. Good1

    Good1

    Those who penned the collection of books now called the Bible (not sure if it deserves a capital B) have all had a problem with what i'm saying about faith. They have aggrandized it. Worth-shipped it. They have practically made it into a currency that you can circulate in the proverbial kingdom of god, able to purchase your way in.

    I absolutely do delegitimize this kind of faith, and indeed, all faith. So i'm not especially targeting your favorite collection of books that you believe in. Those who do believe in them are especially helped, by the way i write, to renounce it, when they are ready. But what i have to say is universal, and applies to all mankind, whether they believe in your favorite collection or not. What i'm saying also applies to those who believe in majic, magic, or magik, armed with stacks of books they believe in.

    To summarize, there's no way faith can be used as a currency to buy one's way into Reality.
     
  4. However, "Abram believed the LORD, and the LORD counted him as righteous because of his faith." Genesis 15:6
     
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  5. maxinger

    maxinger

    In the bible, there were lots of people quarreling.

    The same goes for the ET forum.
     
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  6. Good1

    Good1

    Yes, i'm quite aware of this sentence. I was very much involved in B/biblical oriented J/judeo-C/christianity (not sure they deserve capitals like Good) for two years, and Magistrate oriented J/judeo-C/christianity (Catholicism) for another ten years. My grasp of it's contents is generally greater than the average Sunday attendee.

    The G/od of this world, here called "the Lord", does indeed value faith. Faith is the currency that circulates in it's world. It is what's valuable in it's world. Any man who values it's world will also value the faith that circulates within it as currency.

    Still, faith is a sin that damages what is Good, who/which is not the god of this world, having no association with faith, or what it makes. As discussed in my thread "Faith is a sin...", the damage is not done so much to Good, but to anything, or anyone presuming to be good, that is, to possess any of Good's attributes, such as existence. Anything that substitutes for Good only "exists" as a limited hangout, within the domain of change, which is entirely run within the domain of faith. By the law of change, which dominates the domain of faith, the substitutes will die, which is yet more change. If the G/god of this world is a substitute for Good, then it too will expire, vanish, or otherwise succumb to change (die).

    Knowledge, by contrast, is the currency that circulates in the domain of Good. Faith is antithetical to knowledge.
     
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  7. Yet the Bible reveals that GOD IS GOOD. Psalm 34:8 Taste and see that the LORD is good; blessed is the one who takes refuge in him.
     
  8. Good1

    Good1

    Yes, i've discussed how faith adds to what is Good, and produces a substitute, a simile, a likeness...but never the Real Good. Faith produces another "self", other than what is Good, in its effort to add more to what is Good. It goes by many names, including "The Lord".

    Faith, by any personified name, calls anything that it manifests "good". It even calls the earth, and presumably the trees, seas and bees all "good". Presumably that includes it's main manifestation: "man". All "good".

    As i've said, there is a danger in presuming to possess the attributes of Good, or even to call oneself Good. It is the reason Jesus said, "Why do you call me good?". It's because Jesus knew that man, nor man's maker, was actually Good. He only knew that his true Self, not the male manifestation of a man, was the Good.

    As such, we are dealing with a kind of imposter. Something that is posing as Good, but which is not. Take refuge, instead, in the knowledge of Good, rather than faith in G/god (itself a product of faith).
     
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  9. Good1

    Good1

    Note well the quarrel between Jesus and the local overlords, the lawyers, the scribes,and the priests of at least a couple of classes such as the Pharisee and/or Sadducee.

    That quarrel is extended here, and for the same exact reasons.

    Note well, those Jesus quarreled with knew their own scriptures better than anyone in the entire nation. It's not a coincidence that my quarrel is with those who know the B/bible better, more than anyone here.

    I'm saying it's because of the erroneous content of the scriptures, which Jesus called "traditions".

    They say it's because the leaders of the nation were all corrupt, and did not abide by the scriptures they so dearly proscribed. I very much disagree with that. The leaders were the most likely to be believing, as well as pushing those scriptures/writings/stories/histories/lores/tales.

    Those local leaders who push same scriptures here, are not more or less corrupt than any man or woman. They are not better or worse than the ancient lawyers, scribes, and priests of old. It's the content of their scriptures that i have an issue with. It's the reason i push back.
     
  10. %%
    Good points.
    In contrast to that, the us news media is known for lying/Canadian gov also.
    OneNewsNow rebukes the Canadian gov for stupid stuff /they have a00.01% kill rate.
    Faith is the title deed /Hebrews 11;1 Amplified Bible.
    I like the Bible book of kings where the king of Israel says the king of Syria is try to quarrel/war with him about what we call '' free gov health care'' The old Testament king tore his clothes ,in anguish @ the stupid trainwreck idea of so called gov health care/ 2nd Kings 5=================a==============================================I'm not going to Germany /anywhere for any free socialist train rides/free showers/free gas.NO thanks on 'free gov vaccine'' also+ i gladly voted for Dem j Carter + Republican Trump/pence
    :caution::caution::caution::caution::caution::caution::caution:
     
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