Failure to understand risk/reward and why you're losing as a trader.

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Laissez Faire, Jan 9, 2025.

  1. ironchef

    ironchef

    Maybe for you, chatGPT wasn't that helpful when I asked to help me get rich quick. :mad:
     
    #341     Jan 26, 2025
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  2. Sekiyo

    Sekiyo

    Yeah, me neither ...
    I'll run an experiment though.

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    I asked them to give me 10 stocks with bullish, neutral or bearish outlook for next week.
    I'll let you know EOW what the returns are :p I'll try it for a month and see.
    Let's see if they really are intelligent or just a bunch of retards xD
     
    #342     Jan 26, 2025
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  3. ironchef

    ironchef

    Very clever. I like your creativity. :thumbsup:
     
    #343     Jan 26, 2025
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  4. p0box4

    p0box4

    Nice :D.

    You should start a journal doing this, I wonder what the performance would be in the long run.
     
    #344     Jan 26, 2025
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  5. On topic someone forwarded me this blog post which covers the same thing. It's pretty good:

    Making It Impossible NOT To Be Consistently Profitable

    Eureka. It's been said that trading is rigged against human nature. It's true.

    I bet quite a few are pretty good at cutting losses, but still fail because they don't run their winners.
     
    #345     Jan 27, 2025
  6. ironchef

    ironchef

    99.9% of us agree with you and the quote but only 1% could achieve it. Why?

    In my case, 9 out of 10 times when I let profits ran, they ran into losses so I let them ran less and less..... and I became a scalper. :banghead:
     
    #346     Jan 27, 2025
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  7. Sekiyo

    Sekiyo

    I think you talked about a guy from Market Wizard. The guy was mainly trading events.

    Man … Ok … We’re wrong half the time (binary)
    Everyone on top of Market knew today would be hot.

    WTF didn’t I bought a 0DTE put on SPY ?!
    I think if we wait for major catalyst,
    No index day trading shit,

    Then we can make 10 and lose 1 half the time.
    The key is just patience and boldness.

    People will think it’s a gamble.
    Because they know better.

    But dumb & convex beats smart & concave :D
    LTCM were a bunch of very smart guys.
    Even if they were not on ET.
     
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    #347     Jan 27, 2025
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  8. ironchef

    ironchef

    Only if you are an options guy. :D:cool::p
     
    #348     Jan 27, 2025
  9. Its's pretty hard to get 3:1 reward:risk trade consistently everyday, The market it's just too efficient for that.

    The old saying "cutting loser quick and letting winner run" it's so misleading. Nobody is that good getting 50% winrate with 3:1 on every every trade.

    Positive expectancy it's what make you money, doesn't matter if you get 3:1 or 1:3
     
    #349     Jan 28, 2025
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  10. 1. I didn't say it was easy, but I would argue it's easier.

    I also said that swing trading by default is easier since you're trying to capture larger moves relative to your risk.

    2. You don't have to trade every day. If you see the original videos I posted that guy said multiple times how most people overtrade their accounts and shouldn't even trade every single day.

    That said, I'm not quite sure I agree that you can't get 3:1 trades on a daily basis - especially in current volatility. You don't even need 3:1. Go for 2:1, then.
     
    #350     Jan 28, 2025
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