Failure to understand risk/reward and why you're losing as a trader.

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Laissez Faire, Jan 9, 2025.

  1. taowave

    taowave

    For all thec" swing traders" on this thread, are you guys talking intraday swings or holding for days, weeks or months??
     
    #231     Jan 13, 2025
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  2. deaddog

    deaddog

    Fair enough.
     
    #232     Jan 13, 2025
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  3. deaddog

    deaddog

    Preferably weeks and months. If I day trade it's because I got my entry wrong and got stopped out
     
    #233     Jan 13, 2025
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  4. taowave

    taowave

    I figured that was your method, i cant decipher some of the others
     
    #234     Jan 13, 2025
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  5. ironchef

    ironchef

    I want to get back to the question you asked me prior re: backtest.

    I only have data for daily to monthly prices of open, daily high, daily low and close, adjusted close. It is unrealistic to backtest and find the daily microstructures to build a strategy without any microstructures, especially the real time dynamics. What @volpri did scalping with dynamic movements, patterns, rhythms.... cannot be easily backtested.

    Remember butterflies? It is very similar to when I tried butterflies, I needed the microstructures, the dynamics... to build a strategy. As a result, I gave up, turned around and built a macro options model instead. I trade that way not because I love buying lottery tickets but because I do not have the tools you professionals have.

    Best regards,
     
    #235     Jan 13, 2025
  6. taowave

    taowave

    Im anything but a programmer, but I do feel that retail has access to awesome tools like Orats,Portfolio 123 and Amibroker/Quantshare..









     
    #236     Jan 13, 2025
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  7. ironchef

    ironchef

    Those tools are beyond my pay grade. Too complicated since I am no programer either.

    I am thinking of videotape my screen for one day and play with it after the market closes. Do you think it is a good idea?
     
    #237     Jan 13, 2025
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  8. volpri

    volpri

    I recorded two videos today. One using a 20 tick (5 point SL) and a 40 tick PT (10 point PT) like the goodlife trader said to use in the NQ. I did it with the MNQ and used a 30 second chart to make 10 trades as I didn't have much time to do this today.

    Then I made another video right after that same chart just minutes later and made another 10 trades but using my normal way of scalping. Using a dynamic and wider SL and also using Dynamic PT.

    I saved the videos so you can see them as the trades were happening. However, I will re-record so my voice ain't so slow with my drawl LOL. And so the videos are shorter.

    I will try to post them tonight. Anyway you can then see how it worked out for me. Using a 2:1 reward to risk and using a dynamic R:R and you will see the win rate, and how the dynamics and R:R worked out in both sets of trades.

    Granted it make work totally different for another trader but I will be showing how it worked out for me using the way I scalp.
     
    #238     Jan 13, 2025
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  9. Hello ironchef,

    Correct, you are no programmer. I am programmer. Do not complicate the trading, just guess and make money. That is all you have to do.

    Just click the chart and forget all that fancy stuff. You will feel better day to day.

    The more you try to learn in trading, the worst it gets for you. So just click the chart and have fun. Do not try to learn more. Just go with it.
     
    #239     Jan 13, 2025
  10. Hello taowave,

    If those tools made money, they would not be available for traders.

    You do not have enough money to play with that quant algo trading systems stuff. You need about +$200,000 to run trading systems. And plus you do not have enough trading ideas to back test. And plus all your trading ideas will fail. Forget about it.

    Just click the chart and move on with it. Gamble trading is far more funnier than all that fancy stuff yall talking about.
     
    #240     Jan 13, 2025