Fading the opening gap

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by guy2, Jun 2, 2004.

  1. Murray,

    Welcome to ET. I've enjoyed your articles in Futures for a long time and welcome your insights here.

    For those who don't know him, Murray is a real expert on systems and backtesting.
     
    #41     Sep 2, 2005
  2. guy2

    guy2

    Welcome Murray!
    :)
     
    #42     Sep 2, 2005
  3. guy2

    guy2

    I disagree Don. An opening gap can be played in any market including those that are traded 24 hours. It's up to the trader to back test a strategy and determine a start time and end time. I use the pit times to overlay the ES contract and those are the gaps that I trade.

    The introduction of 24 hour trading in the ES allows traders to determine their own opening times for gap plays. I have back tested the 8am (EST) opening time in the ES as a gap play as well.

    Regards.
     
    #43     Sep 2, 2005
  4. I second "AAA"'s welcome to ET...and don't get me wrong about my comments, it's just that we're big fans of the NYSE opening primarily because we are assured of being on the same side as the Specialists, and we know that they've been making money for 200 years.

    All the best!

    Don
     
    #44     Sep 2, 2005
  5. No reason for argument, if you're making money, then go for it. We're still members of the CME, and we don't trade the E's much because the floor traders can trade for like 60 cents round turn (pretty hard to compete with)...and, believe me, we tried to get "grandfathered" in to that pricing schedule (we've been members since the early 1980's, I would think that would count as "grandfathers" LOL).

    All the best,

    Don

    Oh yeah, can someone tell me why some words get underlined lately? i.e. the "making money" above?
     
    #45     Sep 2, 2005
  6. FWIW-I'm developing a method that fades, fading the opening gap and so far in real trading it's doing fairly well:

    About 60% winning trades
    About a 1.6 W/L ratio.

    It does have some rather big weaknesses, mainly a 33% drawdown. My entry technique is pretty well developed but I've got a ways to go in exit technique.

    The stats were started in early July and there have been about 120 trades so far. So, it's still early in the game.

    DS
     
    #46     Sep 2, 2005
  7. Murray Ruggiero

    Murray Ruggiero Sponsor

    I will try to help. I have some other posts over the past few days in some other threads, which you might enjoy.
     
    #47     Sep 2, 2005
  8. guy2

    guy2

    60 cents!!
    That's amazingly low.

    I don't see the underlines... What type of browser are you using?
     
    #48     Sep 2, 2005

  9. Internet Explorer, maybe I have something clicked that shouldn't be...I'll check it out...thanks.

    Don
     
    #49     Sep 2, 2005
  10. Vol

    Vol

    $2.9 per share ain't bad
    say avg share price is $40
    day trader margin is $10
    You just made 29% in one month
    Who are you, Mark Weinstein?
     
    #50     Sep 2, 2005