Experts tell White House coronavirus can spread through talking or even breathing

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  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/health/aerosol-coronavirus-spread-white-house-letter/index.html

    (CNN)A prestigious scientific panel told the White House Wednesday night that research shows coronavirus can be spread not just by sneezes or coughs, but also just by talking, or possibly even just breathing.

    "While the current [coronavirus] specific research is limited, the results of available studies are consistent with aerosolization of virus from normal breathing," according to the letter, written by Dr. Harvey Fineberg, chairman of a committee with the National Academy of Sciences.

    Fineberg told CNN that he will wear start wearing a mask when he goes to the grocery store.

    "I'm not going to wear a surgical mask, because clinicians need those," said Fineberg, former dean of the Harvard School of Public Health. "But I have a nice western-style bandana I might wear. Or I have a balaclava. I have some pretty nice options."

    Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of the White House's coronavirus task force, told CNN Tuesday that the idea of recommending broad use of masks in the US to prevent the spread of coronavirus is under "very active discussion" by the group.

    Fineberg, chair of the NAS' Standing Committee on Emerging Infectious Diseases and 21st Century Health Threats, said his letter was sent Wednesday evening in response to a query from Kelvin Droegemeier with the Office of Science and Technology Policy at the White House.

    "This letter responds to your question concerning the possibility that [coronavirus] could be spread by conversation, in addition to sneeze/cough-induced droplets," the letter states. "Currently available research supports the possibility that [coronavirus] could be spread via bioaerosols generated directly by patients' exhalation," it continues.

    According to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the virus spreads from person to person when people are within about 6 feet of each other "through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes."

    Fineberg told CNN this is true, but that research shows that aerosolized droplets produced by talking or possibly even by just breathing can also spread the virus.

    His letter explains that research at a hospital in China shows the virus can be suspended in the air when doctors and nurses remove protective gear, or when floors are cleaned, or when staff move around.

    Research by the University of Nebraska shows that genetic material from the virus was found in patients' rooms more than 6 feet away from the patients, according to the letter.

    Fineberg said it's possible that aerosolized coronavirus droplets can hang in the air and potentially infect someone who walks by later.

    He added, however, that coronavirus is not as infectious as measles or tuberculosis.
    How long coronavirus lingers in the air depends on several factors, including how much virus an infected individual puts out when breathing or talking, and also on the amount of circulation in the air, he said.


    "If you generate an aerosol of the virus with no circulation in a room, it's conceivable that if you walk through later, you could inhale the virus," Fineberg said. "But if you're outside, the breeze will likely disperse it."
     
  2. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    Which means, social distancing and even lock downs are pointless and you've bankrupted the wold for bugger all!!
     
  3. apdxyk

    apdxyk

    Experts are kind of late. Posted this a week ago, go to 30 min mark for the laser microdroplet study:

    https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/ondemand/video/5001289/

    NHK will pull it by April 6
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    I think this is the main reason our geniuses at CDC changed their stance on face masks. Dr Fauci spent too much in front of cameras and zero time on any research, a renowned scientist I hear.
     
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  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    walls and glass remain impermeable, studies conclude
     
  5. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    Logic on face masks was, only infected people can spread therefore need, but they missed you can be infected and not know, for the CDC there pretty damn stupid.
     
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  6. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    Vent especially 1's with fans, and it's not a total lock down, still go shopping and can still get as it can float around for a while.

    Why, even lockdown made barely any difference.
     
  7. apdxyk

    apdxyk

    Bunch of career bureaucrats with acronyms behind their surnames.

    The main purpose of lockdowns was to flatten the curve, so when the real doctors get their hands tied up with homeless of San Francisco and NYC, the disciplined taxpayers take a pause before they all run out of resources. Geniuses at work. One doesn't need any nukes to take on the collective West.
     
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  8. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    Not really seeing lockdowns even slow the curve down much at all, by the time they do it, there is enough people with that it still gets around pretty easily.
     
  9. S2007S

    S2007S

    Sounds like this nation wide quarantine will last throughout the spring....
     
  10. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Yeah, I read a story back in January about this out of China.

    The person that wrote it is a Virologist that was vacationing with his wife (Chinese) in China at the time of the outbreak.

    He compared the speed of the spread of Covid-19 to Legionnaires disease and Tuberculosis disease. His wife and him along with her family immediately then wore full face mask (looks like a gas mask) before the lock down when everybody around them (neighbours) begin testing positive for Covid-19.

    Nobody in her family nor him became infected...they all wore full face masks and bough boxes of medical gloves.

    My kids played a prank on me a few days ago via going thru some old military equipment of mine and they found some old gas masks I had swiped before I left the military.

    Filters are bad (removed years ago because old filters are dangerous) but my kids made their point.

    wrbtrader
     
    #10     Apr 2, 2020
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