I paid for this system, it took them a month to send me all the proper information... seems a little weird they offer a 30 day money back guarantee. I called and called and he kept promising and promising to send the indicators. Finally Roger Felton (very nice guy) who runs the chat room sent it to me. I threatened I was going to ask for my money back and that is what made them send it. I should have asked for my money back, but really wanted to SEE it. I really thought it would work. If you go into the chat room, people are not making money. They show trades (mostly profitable) and do not show the losers. Trust me there a lot more. Well, I didn't trade it because the weather, I didn't want it but when it works out they took it. Do not spend your money on it. Would love to hear any other feedback. If you trade his system and say you have made money I will pay you $1000 to prove it.