Experienced futures scalpers: Chart or DOM

Discussion in 'Trading' started by NoDoji, Jan 12, 2013.

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    #61     Jan 14, 2013
  2. Mercor

    Mercor

    A chart does help keep history in a more readable way.

    I would like to see a running chart along side the DOM. A chart line recording the quantity of each depth in real time. It would be interesting to see how prices move as that chart fluctuates.
     
    #62     Jan 14, 2013
  3. ? Doesn't everybody have that?

    maybe not on the computer, but if you are watching it, in your head.

    I'm all for using the computer for what it was named for, namely computing. I don't need it to tell me what I already can see,

    getting back to opies question, me personally, as a 1 to 3 tick es scalper, I would never enter on a chart. One tick is a huge big deal in that game. And it at times happens fast, I don't want to miss it by even a tick on the chart because I was moving the little pointer.

    You asked, I answered, carry on, just one man's (who is glad he never has to scalp again) opinion.
     
    #63     Jan 14, 2013
  4. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    DOM patterns are of paramount importance to all short term traders. I use it all the time. I developed indicators in Ninja which plot the stuff you mentioned. I started a thread a while back on the subject: http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=103293

    Essentially DOM patterns act as both filters when to skip the trade or when to press on a gas. They can be applied to what ever system you are using.
     
    #64     Jan 14, 2013
  5. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    :eek:

    My idea of an ES scalp is 8 ticks...
     
    #65     Jan 14, 2013
  6. must be nice to be rich

    back then 8 ticks made you a big player

    it all ended when I would get stuck with positions on the close

    and I saw how much you could make holding overnight

    good for the bank account

    very bad for sleeping
     
    #66     Jan 14, 2013
  7. horrible for sleeping and not always good for the bank account, lol.
     
    #67     Jan 14, 2013
  8. You are one funny character, Oldtimer. If these 8 tick, rarely lose chart reading savant types would just realize how ridiculous they sound to anyone who understands market reality, they would soon vanish from the site. Good catch! surf
     
    #68     Jan 14, 2013
  9. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    If these writer/marketer types would just realize how ridiculous they sound to professional futures scalpers who've been extracting considerable profit from the market for years, they would...they would...they would...nah, they'd NEVER vanish from the site :p

    Brother Surf, how could a gentleman such as yourself who puts on a YM trade with a 1000 point target believe that claims of taking 8 ticks profit on an ES trade is far beyond market reality?
     
    #69     Jan 14, 2013
  10. cornix

    cornix

    Surf, remind me please, who used to say here, they "rarely lose"?

    And by the way, who better understands market reality: those who make a living trading every day or those who write about them? :D
     
    #70     Jan 14, 2013