*EXPERIENCED DAY TRADERS*how would you recommend starting out as a trader?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by JoshLowe005, Sep 21, 2015.

  1. J_Smith

    J_Smith

    The only thing I know, is that I really know nothing :)

    The kid will be fine, he is not going to lose much with me as he learns a few tricks, that is a guarantee.

    J_S
     
    #61     Sep 26, 2015
  2. Wow Ken im glad I can get your opinion considering how long you've been in the business. Thanks for the advise!
     
    #62     Sep 26, 2015
  3. Thanks! I want to learn as much as I can.
     
    #63     Sep 26, 2015
  4. I have a similar problem but it is a little different from yours. I will take a trade no matter what, if I see the setup. My problem is sometimes the market will try to fakeout bears into covering by taking the market for a bounce for better liquidity such as recent Friday or 8/19 after FED announcement.

    Just because you knowthe market is going down doesn't mean it's going straight down. My weakness is I start to doubt my position when the market starts to bounce huge counter to my directional bias. I consistently doubt my positions with market action but sometimes it pays to be bold.
     
    #64     Sep 26, 2015
  5. EPrado

    EPrado

    Yeah I hear ya. But the line between being bold and being reckless is a fine one. Being bold is setting a stop or an "out" and sticking to it. That's a great thing. Thinking that you "know" the market is going down and saying "screw it, I am not getting out" is reckless. Trust me...been there. Years ago I would turn 5 point ES losers into 15 Point ones. I think most traders have done this type of reckless stuff. Of course when trading with that mentality we don't think about those. It's the ones that go from 5 point losers, to 15 point losers, to 5 point winners. The problem is those trades in my opinion don't happen a lot. Even when they do, trading like that is a free trip to AdiosAccountVille. You need 3 of those to cover one losing trade. No bueno.
     
    #65     Sep 27, 2015
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  6. For your bankroll avoid stock indices. DO the rest...seasonal spreads, calendar spreads etc. There are lots of books....

     
    #66     Sep 28, 2015
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  7. J_Smith

    J_Smith

    Now that is so obvious, why didn't I bother to do a bit of serious searching - I said I wud never buy any trading realated material again, but 2 have now caught my attention - thank you for pointing me in the right direction and I will let you know what I think, as many are talking about other books and courses, but you could well be 100% correct and most are just "looking" in the wrong place for the "right" information.

    This subject has always been of interest to me but I never really gave it some serious attention - I shall now do so, as it might well suit my current situations:)

    You now have 2 followers, and I only follow anyone who I think is really worth following, meaning, if they help me get a better understanding of what it is I am trying to understand so that it makes me some money :)

    J_S
     
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    #67     Sep 28, 2015
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  8. There is a database of seasonal spreads and my book (yes, I did write the one I linked) contains a large segment of that. There used to be a service of this database called spread scope but it is defunct by now.
     
    #68     Sep 28, 2015
  9. J_Smith

    J_Smith

    Just as well I didn't say I was gona "find" it on the internet..lol
    That is handy, as I will definitely have some questions for you - I will order it tonight.

    J_S
     
    #69     Sep 28, 2015
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  10. J_Smith

    J_Smith

    HW, I have a question and would like to see what your answer will be?

    Say I want to go long the AAPL call as follows - Oct 02'15 115 Call @ limit 0.65

    AAPL currently @ 112.72

    My loss is capped at $65 per contract plus commission - to keep it simple we will say 1 contract - so total risk is $66.09 but we will forget about commissions for this question.

    How can I protect my downside risk of $65 for small money (say round $20) by going long an option on another instrument, in case AAPL falls and does not come back up before expiration next Friday?

    I do not want to use a stop order for this trade, but am willing to pay a little bit more for my other long so as to part protect my $65, so if my long call expires worthless I will have made some money on my other trade in the meantime, as if AAPL falls my other trade should go up and I will close that out for a profit to either offset some of my loss, or even make a profit - and if AAPL rallies after that before friday, I might even make more profit?

    I can not sell calls or puts in the account - hence any trade has to be long only.

    J_S
     
    #70     Sep 28, 2015