EXCLUSIVE: The SEC is likely to allow the first U.S. Bitcoin futures ETF to begin trading next week,

Discussion in 'Crypto Assets' started by ajacobson, Oct 14, 2021.

  1. johnarb

    johnarb

    People are not interested in btc futures due to margin requirements and fear of liquidations

    Bitcoin ETF will not have that so people will be very interested, imho


    You're so lucky you have not traded bitcoin futures short, you would have been rekt :D

    Just keep waiting, some day you'll trade the real bitcoin futures that trade 24/7
     
    #11     Oct 15, 2021
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  2. maxinger

    maxinger

    BTC futures trading is leveraged.
    So those who have limited $$$ will trade futures.
    Those who have $$$ will trade BTC.


    Don't worry. I know when to short it.
     
    #12     Oct 15, 2021
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  3. johnarb

    johnarb

    Raoul Pal's thoughts on the bitcoin futures etf:

    Issuing the BTC futures ETF is a good step but its basically handing hedge funds a massive arbitrage opportunity as the futures will trade at a large premium in bull phases and they get to capture those returns

    This is the old financial market trick - you now have to add multiple new intermediaries who all make profits - the ETF provider, clearing house, futures broker, administrator, auditor, law firm, CME and hedge fund arbs. Wall street gets richer. Retail investors lose. Again.

     
    #13     Oct 15, 2021
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  4. i doubt about it too , as it is BTC future ETF and BTC future does not have impact on BTC which makes it not popular for traders. but still can expect some buying from Financial accounts which are regulated to have to buy limited financial products and so far cannot buy BTC itself. but the question is how much money will flow into the new coming Future ETF ?
     
    #14     Oct 15, 2021
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  5. johnarb

    johnarb

    We won't have to wait long to find out since it's supposed to start trading on Monday or Tuesday
     
    #15     Oct 16, 2021
  6. Overnight

    Overnight

    Tuesday. I bet you are giddy as a schoolboy. I don't blame you. This could be the kick you were looking for to get BTC to 100K by X-Mas.

    There's music for that of course. :) There always is. Good luck on your journey, johnarb and all you crypto folks!

     
    #16     Oct 16, 2021
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  7. johnarb

    johnarb

    Thank you, Overnight!!

    This is not the bitcoin ETF that we want but it's a start! The bitcoin spot ETF will be the real deal, which pushed Gold price 600% when it was introduced for gold

    The 100K by eoy is more of a seasonal thing. Oct-Dec are good for bitcoin and cryptos and this year will be quite special

    Imagine the fund manager who has to provide an explanation why he/she did not invest a portion of the portfolio in the best-performing asset as declared by Morgan Stanley at the beginning of the year

    The career risk narrative on bitcoin has shifted

    I was watching CNBC fast money this afternoon and they are having a contest of some type and every single one wanted to pick bitcoin as 1 of their 2 picks. How times have changed :D
     
    #17     Oct 16, 2021
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  8. yes, the BTC spot ETF is the real deal. but doubt if SEC will approve it.
     
    #18     Oct 16, 2021
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  9. johnarb

    johnarb

    I'm unfamiliar with the process but people who seem to be knowledgeable are posting on crypto twitter that this is usually a first step and bitcoin spot etf will be approved later
     
    #19     Oct 16, 2021
  10. Overnight

    Overnight

    Are there any other ETFs out there based on CME futures?
     
    #20     Oct 16, 2021
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