Exclusive Brethren family smash Epping record buying $7.5 million house

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by themickey, Jul 23, 2022.

  1. themickey

    themickey

    Exclusive Brethren family smash Epping record buying $7.5 million house

    By Lucy Macken July 24, 2022
    https://www.smh.com.au/property/new...buying-7-5-million-house-20220721-p5b3lw.html

    The family of Exclusive Brethren world leader Bruce D. Hales have emerged as the record $7.5 million buyers of a house in Epping.

    The sale of the 1980s-built house on a vast 4116 square metres stunned locals earlier this year because the result was well above the $6 million guide, took just 10 days to sell and smashed local house price records by $1.75 million.

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    The 4116 square metre property last traded in 1983 for $235,000.Credit:

    The buyer remained a tightly kept secret until settlement revealed it was purchased by Nerolie Hales, wife of Ox Tools global chief Dean Hales, who is the son of Hales Snr, known by his congregation as the Elect Vessel of the Plymouth Brethren Christian Church, previously called the Exclusive Brethren.

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    Dean Hales is the global chief executive of hand tools manufacturer Ox Tools.Credit:LinkedIn

    No finance was required on the purchase.

    The wealthy Hales family are well-known locals who have long shown a penchant for some of the largest and most expensive estates in Epping and Eastwood.

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    The five-bedroom, three-bathoom house was built in the mid-1980s and sits on one of the suburb’s largest privately held parcels.Credit:

    Hales senior’s brother Stephen Hales set an Epping record of $4 million in 2016 when he bought the heritage Blairgowrie mansion, and that was topped in late 2019 when Cameron and Rochelle Hales bought a six-bedroom mansion up the road for $5.75 million.

    Dean and Nerolie are moving from Eastwood, where brothers Gareth and Charles, who sold their office design firm Unispace last year for $300 million, live in the same street as family patriarch Bruce Hales.


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    Bruce D. Hales is the global leader of the 50,000-strong Plymouth Brethren Christian Church.

    The fundamentalist church – once dubbed an “extremist cult” by former prime minister Kevin Rudd – has been the subject of controversy in recent decades given its doctrine of “separation” whereby members are discouraged from forming friendships with outsiders under threat of excommunication. Formerly known as the Exclusive Brethren, the church does not allow members to vote, although leaders are politically connected, Liberal Party donors and have lobbied on behalf of conservative causes.

    At the time the Epping property sold it was reported the buyer planned to create a family compound, rather than redevelop the estate, but those plans remain speculative given no comment from the Hales family.
     
  2. themickey

    themickey

    Charity is a wonderful thing, especially the religous sort. :)

    Money to burn! :)

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    In the meantime, keep passing the plate brother.
     
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2022
  3. Doesn't sound like he followed the example the Apostle Paul gave. The thing is, you keep posting all these awful things that people do in the name of religion, but all of those very things are what the Bible says NOT to do. They do it anyway and give Christians a bad name!!!!

    We were not idle when we were with you, nor did we eat anyone’s food without paying for it. On the contrary, we worked night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you.
    2 Thessalonians 3:7, 8​
     
  4. stu

    stu

    Ecclesiastes 5:19
    Furthermore, as for every man to whom God has given riches and wealth, He has also empowered him to eat from them and to receive his reward and rejoice in his labor; this is the gift of God.

    Bible states THIS here and THAT there. God talk comes from both sides of its mouth
    o_O
    just sayin
     
  5. I can't even follow you. What are you talking about????

    The Apostle Paul worked hard so that he wouldn't be a financial burden to one of the churches he ministered too.

    The issue on this thread is concerning those in ministry who take more than is right from their congregation.
     
  6. stu

    stu

    Ok student, then let me explain

    You just said to mickey how the Hales scammers were doing - quote: "all of those very things [are] what the Bible says NOT to do"
    Then you posted Bible verse to say they had not followed the example of someone called the Apostle Paul in support of that claim.

    In response I similarly posted Bible verse that says how the Hales scammers HAD followed the example of someone called Solomon.
    They were doing all of those very things what the Bible says ARE to do.

    That's Why I said "God talk comes from both sides of its mouth"

    The Bible does not say "ministers of the church, thou shalt not scam thy sheep", rather in Solomon, it sorta boasts how it's God which provides all those things despite and regardless of con tricks.
     
  7. You know, you and @themickey are kinda hilarious to read. It's sometimes like reading a comic book.

    To say "it sorta boasts how it's God which provides all those things despite and regardless of con tricks" is to misunderstand the culture and context.

    1. The only giving the Israelites did was done to the temple and in the manner written out in the Torah. There were no "collections" it was all an "on your honor" type of giving.

    2. The verse written by King Solomon does not appear to me to be directed to religious leaders.

    It seems to me to be an observation that God does give wealth to some people.

    You seem to assume they got it through criminal activities, fleecing the flock.

    I assume that most of the wealthy in the land of Israel probably obtained it though hard work and careful management of their means of income. After all, they did have the law that they were supposed to be following.

    As far as seeing God as the giver of wealth, He is described as the Creator and a Provider. Even the very poor have been given things by God. They did not create their bodies, they did not create their food, they did not create the air they breathe. All the things that people use to grow food, raise animals, meet basic needs are done out of the materials that God created for us to be able to use. So even a very poor person has been given things by God.
     
  8. These types of evangelists don't pray, they prey...
     
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  9. themickey

    themickey

    Are you saying we should be forever grateful that God didn't place us on Mars where nothing grows?
     
  10. stu

    stu

    We are discussing the bible so of course it reads like comic book stuff.

    Quite honestly, all the wriggling and squirming you do to throw all sorts of misleading context at anything you don't want the Bible to mean what it says would be truly comical were it not so sad.

    You can't be naive enough to assume that. Clerics, ministers, clergy were no different than they are now. There was Certain to be plenty of jiggery-pokery.
    Just one of the many movements and rebellious factions against the Hebrew church orthodoxy at that time morphed into Christianity due to a popular anger over finances and to where funds were being sent.

    If that were so then "God the Creator and a Provider" must also have created and provided killer diseases like TB and malaria , which poor people are especially susceptible to.
    nice! :rolleyes:

    No offense but just a suggestion. Maybe you could start thinking through some of this self-defeating religious bs before posting it.
     
    #10     Jul 27, 2022