EXAS April options mis-priced

Discussion in 'Options' started by vanv0029, Apr 4, 2013.

  1. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    short downside puts winning right now.
     
    #121     Apr 18, 2013
  2. EXAS:

    I sold 1 (one) April $7 put for $45.

    I'll take 100 shares at $7. If there's a problem they can probably fix it... and if they can't somebody else (e.g. BMS) can buy them and maybe THEY can fix it. Either way it will be a long time before the whole story is told.

    BTW: Implied Volatility really is that high.

    You bought the shares outright???

    WOW... that's against my religion. I sold an Oct $10 put for $270.


    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013...News&feedType=RSS&feedName=companyNews&rpc=43

    so my April $7 put will produce a 7 - .45 = 6.55 acquisition price
    while my Oct $10 put will produce a 10 - 2.70 = 7.3 acquisition price.

    Currently I am showing a premarket price of 6.68 . I got my 'cover' notice from Optionsxpress.

    If we open at 6.68 my net loss will be $49. This is why I don't plunge into this kind of situation.

    I think this is a good result, but the people who DO plunge are mostly a bunch of amateurs who are now in a panic.

    I may just take the 200 shares and wait.
    :)
     
    #122     Apr 18, 2013
  3. I thought at the time that in the midst of all the euphoria, you were taking a pragmatic view in terms of risk management.

    The reaction of the market to the data release proves your caution was justified.
     
    #123     Apr 18, 2013
  4. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Thanks. But a loss is a loss.
     
    #124     Apr 18, 2013
  5. vanv0029

    vanv0029

    Interesting market reaction to EXAS study. Market reaction is negative
    on interpretation not data. Namely, only 42% versus 57% result, as
    found by previous study, detetection of pre-cancer polyps up to 1 cm. 2cm
    targeted 67% sensitivity (ability to find) was reached.

    EXAS President was just on CNBC so I think pre-market fall will be partially
    reversed so EXAS might be good for traders. I think he is right that the
    test will be approved by the FDA and used because there is nob alternative
    even close.

    Multi-strike short naked puts (some as naked puts some as covered calls) works.
    I now hope EXAS stock will close tomorrow at 8.99 so I get maximum numbers
    of shares. My overall share cost will be around 7.50. Pin to 9.00 means I
    get the shares with some profit and least use of IB margin for a large position.

    I think market reaction is irrational but as a purely fundamental value trader
    there are many irrationally priced stocks that are using up my margin.

    Interesting for philosophers of science is that I think some of EXAS President's
    analsysis is wrong because there are methodological problems with the Von Mises
    sampling definition of probability everybody assumes. It is not true that
    two 90% tests produce higher than 90% chance of cancer detection. It is
    true that tests every few years is positive because polyps grow.
     
    #125     Apr 18, 2013
  6. I'm not upset... Its a trade amongst many... I risked 400 and paid 200 for abackspread
     
    #126     Apr 18, 2013
  7. is this another thread where folks show a fancy way to lose money?
     
    #127     Apr 18, 2013
  8. Beats me. I sold 10 Apr $6 puts for 40 cents a month ago and bought 'em back on Monday for 25 cents. Booked a smooth $123.44 after commissions and fees.

    Drinks are on me, boys. :D
     
    #128     Apr 18, 2013
  9. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    I could use a whiskey today.
     
    #129     Apr 18, 2013

  10. Yeah, I hear you. I'm in Austin, barely 90 minutes from West, which has been partially blown off the map. It seems half our trauma personnel are up there.
     
    #130     Apr 18, 2013