Example Trading System

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by sidinuk, Jan 17, 2005.

  1. sidinuk

    sidinuk

    macaw, that sort of large reversal in the last 20 minutes of trading is pretty rare, obviously a reaction to the sustained down move over the last 3 days.

    If we added a target to the system we could have taken more profit from this particular day but we need to look at the effectiveness of this target over all of the data sample. Overall, using a target with this sort of system will diminish returns as found in the original article.

    Days like today are frustrating, when so much profit is given back in the last few minutes. However, we have to remember the objective of this particular system is to capitalise on strong trend days where the market closes at or close to the high/low of the day. This just wasn't one of those days. Our filters did anticipate that it was unlikely to be a solid trend day and kept us out of all but YM.

    No one system can profit from every situation and market condition - that's why you need a few different ones!
     
    #341     Oct 7, 2005
  2. macaw

    macaw

    Sid,
    Thanks for that and thanks for this thread. I have been following it with interest since the beginning.

    I was thinking of something more like a trailing stop once a certain target is reached or the use of some technical indicator when the trend is very clearly going strongly in the other direction.

    You're probably right though, finding something that would actually inrease the overall profit is difficult. I have tried backtesting a number of things without success.
    If I come up with something, I'll post it!
     
    #342     Oct 7, 2005
  3. mogul

    mogul

    you can try taking a tick or two at least when a trade has become favorable and then reverses...i.e breakeven + 1 tick
     
    #343     Oct 7, 2005
  4. Businessman

    Businessman


    You forgot plain old bad luck:(
    Which often manifests itself in this game over the short term.
     
    #344     Oct 7, 2005
  5. I don't understand. I looked at the results from the web site on YM for 2005 in the "<1.6" column and I see +732 points.

    Even after commissions this is a nice return.

    Are you looking at it as if trading all of the futures instruments as a combined total ?
     
    #345     Oct 8, 2005
  6. sidinuk

    sidinuk

    True to recent form, a losing week was followed by a winning week last week. Turning in a combined profit of $1,320 before commissions and slippage.
     
    #346     Oct 10, 2005
  7. sidinuk

    sidinuk

    Oct 18, 2005. A mixed day with YM and NQ going long while ER2, EMD and ES went short. Overall a profit of $685 for the day.
     
    #347     Oct 18, 2005
  8. dbs119

    dbs119

    I would say today was a pretty good day for everyone trading the DOW or Russel minis..
     
    #348     Oct 19, 2005
  9. Hittfeld

    Hittfeld

    Sidinuk,

    on your website you show a profit for YM of 72 points for yesterday, mon oct 24th. Yet on that day our website announced a NO TRADE TODAY.

    Did I miss something?

    Best wishes and thanks for your nice system and hard work

    Hittfeld
     
    #349     Oct 25, 2005
  10. sidinuk

    sidinuk

    Sorry, Hittfeld. I didn't update the 'to trade or not' table by mistake so it still showed Friday's information.

    Thank you for your kind comments.
     
    #350     Oct 26, 2005