Ex-Hawaii official denounces 'ludicrous' birther claims.

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Free Thinker, Apr 11, 2011.

  1. The Hawaiian state health official who personally reviewed Barack Obama's original birth certificate has affirmed again that the document is "real" and denounced "conspiracy theorists" in the so-called "birther" movement for continuing to spread bogus claims about the issue.

    As the top Hawaiian official in charge of state health records in 2008, when the issue of Obama's birth first arose, Fukino said she thought she had put the matter to rest. Contacted by NBC, Fukino expanded on previous public statements and made two key points when asked about Trump's recent comments.

    The first is that the original so-called "long form" birth certificate — described by Hawaiian officials as a "record of live birth" — absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. Fukimo said she has personally inspected it — twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state's then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.
    Before she would do so, Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files — and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document's validity. She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time.


    In addition, as Factcheck.org and other media organizations have repeatedly pointed out, both of Honolulu's newspapers, the Honolulu Advertiser on Aug. 13, 1961, and the Honolulu Star Bulletin, on Aug. 14, 1961, both ran birth announcements listing Obama's birth on Aug. 4 of that year.


    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42519951/ns/politics-more_politics
     
  2. Oh...well as long as she SAID she saw it, thats good enough for me.
     
  3. "Without a shred of verifiable and falsifiabl_e evidence to the contrary, 50% of the republican_s don't believe that President Obama was born in the US less than 50 years ago.
    And yet, those same people are certain that 2000 years ago someone called jesus was born in of a virgin in the Middle East, did miracles, died on the cross and resurrecte_d to heaven without a shred of verifiable and falsifiabl_e evidence to support this."
     
  4. I'm going to guess that all liberals believe in Bigfoot.

    All they need is word of mouth from people 'out in the field' to make it fact.
     
  5. stu

    stu

    Wait a sec...shouldn't jesus have 2 birth certificates if he was born again?
     
  6. And then there are all those born again Christians...
     
  7. olias

    olias


    Use your head here...

    why would she say that publicly if someone else could go and see that she was lying? Makes no sense

    combine that with the fact that both major Hawaiian newspapers reported the birth at the time...

    at least read the snopes.com review on the issue: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp
     
  8. jem

    jem

    good... Now all Obama will have to do is produce it for the state electoral boards. End of issue.
     
  9. Maybe you didn't read all of it





    But Wisch, the spokesman for the attorney general's office, said state law does not in fact permit the release of "vital records," including an original "record of live birth" — even to the individual whose birth it records.

    "It's a Department of Health record and it can't be released to anybody," he said. Nor do state laws have any provision that authorizes such records to be photocopied, Wisch said. If Obama wanted to personally visit the state health department, he would be permitted to inspect his birth record, Wisch said.

    But if he or anybody else wanted a copy of their birth records, they would be told to fill out the appropriate state form and receive back the same computer generated "certification of live birth" form that everybody else gets — which is exactly what Obama did four years ago.
     
  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    because public figures never lie, right?
     
    #10     Apr 11, 2011